Obituary: WIDWNR

MUTINEERS,

I am saddened to report the sudden and unexpected demise of our beloved friend, Whoa– is dating White not right? (July 28, 2007 -August 1, 2007).

Right was born in an indie coffee shop, in the heart of Washington, D.C., via the twin modern miracles of a stickered, 12″ iBook and wifi. In his short life, he profoundly affected many mutineers; Right challenged long-held assumptions, enlightened us about dozens of subjects and was a welcoming, tolerant figure in our community. He will be missed.

In lieu of flowers, Right’s grieving family humbly requests that when SM does its annual plea for donations to keep the site going, a la PBS/NPR, you contribute a rupee or two in his memory, especially since his Mother HATES ADS AND WILL NEVER AGREE TO HAVING THEM ON THIS SITE.

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I had to close the uber-thread. πŸ™

Many of you are writing to me, letting me know that you can no longer access it. Not sure what’s going on, but I can’t see new comments, either, which means I can’t moderate…so unfortunately, the party is over…not that I needed to do a lot of moderating in the first place. πŸ™‚

I am delighted; considering the provocative subject material, there was far less ickiness, trolling or flaming than one might expect. All credit for that goes to you.

Thanks for one of the most lively, fascinating and relevant discussions we’ve ever had– and don’t fret, my pets…plenty of you left comments which could be spun off in to so many different threads, about queer dating, seduction via bharatnatyam, evaluating what’s worse– emasculation or exoticization, outting Iyengars, South Asian inter-religious/regional relationships, where to find B-Boy/punker Punjabis, how to procure puliyodarai, internalized self-hatred as evidenced by externalized comment-stupidity, whether I-Bankers are evil, where to find the mythical straight-haired, hyper-maintained desi goddesses whose knickers disintegrate for private equity types, San Francisco’s alternately sucky/fantastic dating scene and of course, HAIR.

More of all that, soon. In the meanwhile, pour a little sum’n out for “Right”, the next time libations are flowing. Sigh. Time to cue Tupac:

Rest in peace young homie, there’s a heaven for a G…

300 thoughts on “Obituary: WIDWNR

  1. i aint even that old, and some people (not mentioning any names jeet) thought i was an old f@rt or something. im still 20 something!

  2. I’m all for badlo.com

    I need me some saving especially from someone that is ok taking it in every orifice possible. I must admit though that non-desi girls are kinkier than desi ones atleast among the ones I have known. The whole 3some vibe hasn’t gone well with desi chics.

    Strangely enough, i find girls of all races/kinds attractive but only indian guys will do. Maybe it reminds me of being in boarding school πŸ˜‰

  3. err…okay then….how much do you make πŸ™‚

    Puli, how’re you going to keep up with straight-haired man-eating detritus at a New York bar if you fold so easily to a fogey of uncertain age on the Internet? I am just building your spine here, dude. I take my wingman responsibilities quite holistically, you know.

  4. fold so easily to a fogey of uncertain age on the Internet? I am just building your spine here, dude. I take my wingman responsibilities quite holistically, you know.

    I guess watching my spine is part and parcel of watching my back…kudos to u.

  5. Rahul, what do you want me to do? Bring you Alka Seltzer and your slippers!? πŸ˜‰

    Please bring a pack of Depends too in case my memory fails me.

  6. PindaUSA @133: that was an immortal comment. Made my day.

    oh….dont thank me. thank the average girl on my new website crush (sorry SM.com) Its a great place to meet the mediocre desi partner of your parents dreams…

  7. Rahul, Welcome to uncleji club. But then again you probably donÒ€ℒt care to belong to any club that will have you as a member.

  8. Its a great place to meet the mediocre desi partner of your parents dreams…

    PindaUSA, forget Iyengar-banking. I think writing ad copy is the job you were born for.

  9. Re: 83, 94, 100, 104, 107 (indulging in oral or anal sex not being consistent with the state of virginity)

    I think, in these cases, the notion of virginity is a malleable social construct. Many high school women do not consider “giving head” to be “having sex” (I’ll try to dig up the sources if anyone is interested), and in several cultures (particularly in previous generations) as long as the hymen was intact (regardless of say, anal sex or digital stimulation) the woman was not considered deflowered.

  10. Puliogre in da USA wrote:

    I also recall your saying that you are only attracted to “skinny, Indian girls”, is it really any wonder your game is off? (just quoting from another post of yours..)
    whats wrong with having a type?

    There’s absolutely nothing wrong with having a type, I suppose I jumped on this because he was replying to a post about guys who only seem to go after those girls.

  11. But then again you probably donÒ€ℒt care to belong to any club that will have you as a member.

    That does fit in with my Marxist philosophies. The same way I would never date a brown girl who would stoop so low as to data a desi guy. Hail Clayton Bigsby!

  12. PindaUSA, forget Iyengar-banking. I think writing ad copy is the job you were born for.

    I would quickly end up like the guys in this movie.

  13. oh….dont thank me. thank the average girl on my new website crush (sorry SM.com) Its a great place to meet the mediocre desi partner of your parents dreams…

    ha ha. puli, your dating experiences (online and otherwise) sound terrible…but keep it up so that you can regale us with more stories πŸ˜‰

  14. ha ha. puli, your dating experiences (online and otherwise) sound terrible…but keep it up so that you can regale us with more stories πŸ˜‰

    ill find a tricked out grl by the end of the year ill show you all! muahahaAHAHAHA!

  15. I’m DYING to delve a bit in to this whole “skinny Indian girl” thing, but I can’t decide whether to do it here or on one of my mouldering personal blogs; I know, I used your comments as a prompt for the interracial dating post, so why not do the same this time, but certain people seem to have hemorrhoids today, regarding what I post on SM, and I’d feel rude annoying them when I don’t have any preparation H on hand, like a good hostess should.

    The picture I want your collective opinion on is of a non-desi. I reeeeally want to know if she’d be considered “skinny” and if Puliogre, Rob et al would hit on her at all these lounges which are near Lemon bar (I think?? My memory of Manhattan fades…) or find her too zaftig. That “skinny” just keeeeps popping up…

  16. Puli, I thot you were old because when you said you will be wearing a fedora to the meetup I actually had to google that to find out what it is

  17. The picture I want your collective opinion on is of a non-desi. I reeeeally want to know if she’d be considered “skinny” and if Puliogre, Rob et al would hit on her at all these lounges which are near Lemon bar (I think?? My memory of Manhattan fades…) or find her too zaftig. That “skinny” just keeeeps popping up…

    post it on here…i would love to tell u if I would “go there”….the skinny grls is a new target for me. the logic is that if they are “i-bankr chasing”. i might have some success with them, as they might have a bid on me. but, i dont mind some badonkadonk action either…

  18. any preparation H on hand, like a good hostess should.

    a REALLY REALLY good hostess….”coffee, tea, juice, hemmriod cream, herpes medication?”

  19. ill find a tricked out grl by the end of the year ill show you all! muahahaAHAHAHA!

    LOL, will you outfit her with rims?

    hmm…if not before, maybe AT the next NYC meetup (bow chicka wow wow).

    We’ll all have to put out an APB for you, haha.

    I think, in these cases, the notion of virginity is a malleable social construct. Many high school women do not consider “giving head” to be “having sex” (I’ll try to dig up the sources if anyone is interested), and in several cultures (particularly in previous generations) as long as the hymen was intact (regardless of say, anal sex or digital stimulation) the woman was not considered deflowered.

    Of course, Shaad, but I think we’re saying we find those definitions stupid. I’m sure it varies by individual. That said, anyone who thinks that they’re not engaging in risky sexual behavior by opting for anal over vaginal sex is crazy. I really don’t see how taking it up any orifice does not involve some transgressing of the boundaries of virginity, but I suppose that only matters if virginity matters to you.

  20. a REALLY REALLY good hostess….”coffee, tea, juice, hemmriod cream, herpes medication?”

    Ada, while I’m flattered that you think I socialize in such rarified circles…gladly sadly, I don’t get to entertain Paris Hilton.

  21. LOL, will you outfit her with rims?

    yikes….NSFW. I opened that link. freaked out. closed it. all with my boss standing next to me!

  22. yikes….NSFW. I opened that link. freaked out. closed it. all with my boss standing next to me!

    Your boss??? Awww, paavam. πŸ˜€ Such a chamathu boy, this Puliogre is, what with not knowing about rims and all. πŸ˜‰

  23. Ada, while I’m flattered that you think I socialize in such rarified circles…gladly sadly, I don’t get to entertain Paris Hilton.

    Ah, not as rarified as one would think. I’ll bring the Valtrex since I do travel in those circles.

  24. Ada, while I’m flattered that you think I socialize in such rarified circles…gladly sadly, I don’t get to entertain Paris Hilton.
  25. my parents’ preferences used to be 1. Punjabi, 2. Sikh, etc., but now it is definitely 1. Sikh, 2. Who cares?
    I gotta drive my rents to “who cares” stage and then I am GOLDEN!

    “Who cares?” is just the beginning. As I said before, my mom is at the point where she’s like, “Sikh/Punjabi/Gujrati/Gori/Jewess be damned, and DAMN YOU, too! Just give me a grandchild and do what you want with your life.”

  26. yikes….NSFW. I opened that link. freaked out. closed it. all with my boss standing next to me!

    Sorry! I should have put up a warning. The link I had to Depends is also NSFW, imo.

  27. Ah, not as rarified as one would think. I’ll bring the Valtrex since I do travel in those circles.

    last year, i got shingles on my thigh, and the doctor gave me valtrex, which really just freaked me out more than the shingles themselves…

  28. what with not knowing about rims and all. πŸ˜‰

    thank you puli for the warning as i didnt know what that was either. But i did learn about rim jobs from Drama

  29. Your boss??? Awww, paavam. πŸ˜€ Such a chamathu boy, this Puliogre is, what with not knowing about rims and all. πŸ˜‰

    for a sle@zt i-banker im a good beta….

  30. just freaked me out more than the shingles themselves…

    If I was goin out with a grl. things are going well, I go to her bathroom, and there is valtrx on her bathroom counter. i would freak out. i try to be understanding and tolerant and liberal and all of that. but…that would have me heading for the hills….

  31. last year, i got shingles on my thigh, and the doctor gave me valtrex, which really just freaked me out more than the shingles themselves…

    ak, my senior year I got shingles (which was AWFUL), and they gave me prednisone, i think. I’m not a doc (and not trying to be a know-it-all), but I think they gave you valtrex because shingles == a form of chicken pox == a form of herpes (but not that genital kind) –> treatable with Valtrex.

  32. I’ll bring you a bedpan, also, since apparently Depends are not a great idea.

    That link jostled my memory. Please bring me some marijuana. Medicinal, of course, for my glaucoma.

    (I have to say this thread and its sibling have been quite educational for me. I’d never realized straight hair was the cardinal sign of absolute evil. I’d always been under the impression it was no hair.)

  33. for a sle@zt i-banker im a good beta….

    Come on Puli, you should know that good != sexually unimaginative/averse.

    I didn’t mean to scare you, though. I just thought how you’d written about finding your girl was funny — it sounded like something outta Pimp My Ride.

  34. things are going well, I go to her bathroom …that would have me heading for the hills….

    PindaUSA, I assume this will only happen after papa-mummy have approved and you’ve both been united in holy shaadi(.com?), and good Indians do not divorce, so no heading for the hills, ok?

  35. Well, not quite dating experiences (those were fine), but haven’t some of you had the being-set-up-by-the-unclejis-and-auntiejis (read friends of the family) experiences?

    When I was in grad school, every other month or so some “friends of the family” (FOTFs) would visit the Bay Area, give me a ring to let me know they were visiting, remark on how I must be missing some home-cooked Bengali meals, and suggest that I drop by. And, of course, (surprise!) there’d be an “eligible” young woman (daughter or niece of said FOTFs) there. Well, I did like the Bengali dishes, and I figured I might as well enjoy the process.

    So I’d dress all preppy (you know, the blazer and slacks thing), drop by, talk seriously about politics and literature, and cultivate that proper air of polite reserve that makes all prospective Bengali parental-in-law hearts go pitter-patter. Unfortunately for them, then I’d talk with the girl as if I had no clue whatsoever about what the evening was supposed to accomplish — you know, being all platonic, sounding more like an uncleji interested in her accomplishments than a potential suitor). You could see the FOTFs getting more and more frustrated with each and every passing moment; but they were always far too polite to say anything.

    A good dinner, and entertainment too. What more could one ask for?

  36. I’d never realized straight hair was the cardinal sign of absolute evil.

    I have straight hair πŸ™ runs to by some curl cream

  37. That link jostled my memory. Please bring me some marijuana. Medicinal, of course, for my glaucoma.

    Alas, I am no longer in CA and cannot treat you to the benefits of a Cannabis Club membership πŸ™‚

  38. Camille, isn’t prednisone an immuno-suppressant? Why did they give it to you for shingles? Can shingles also be a manifestation of an auto-immune reaction?

  39. I’d never realized straight hair was the cardinal sign of absolute evil.
    I have straight hair

    Me too. Muahahaha.

  40. good != sexually unimaginative/averse

    yikes. this is turning into a therapy session…im going to have to get freakyer.

    PindaUSA, I assume this will only happen after papa-mummy have approved and you’ve both been united in holy shaadi(.com?), and good Indians do not divorce, so no heading for the hills, ok?

    I imagine going home to a voicemail from pulli-amma and pulli-appa asking “how did the date go, beta”. I call them back, and stutter something about valtrex, and “no cure for herpes”…

  41. Camille, isn’t prednisone an immuno-suppressant? Why did they give it to you for shingles? Can shingles also be a manifestation of an auto-immune reaction?

    Yes. Apparently I caught shingles from myself. The Health Center folks said that under severe stress, there’s a 10% chance (in my age bracket) for someone to catch shingles (aka chicken pox) from themselves. I know, wtf?

    not evil. its just that everyone harbors a secret hatred, for the prettiest girl in the room

    Pffft whatevs PindaUSA!

    Well, not quite dating experiences (those were fine), but haven’t some of you had the being-set-up-by-the-unclejis-and-auntiejis (read friends of the family) experiences?

    Yes, but I also let them think I’m a lesbian. I’m telling you, it’s really effective.

  42. When I was in grad school, every other month or so some “friends of the family” (FOTFs) would visit the Bay Area, give me a ring to let me know they were visiting, remark on how I must be missing some home-cooked Bengali meals, and suggest that I drop by. And, of course, (surprise!) there’d be an “eligible” young woman (daughter or niece of said FOTFs) there.

    were the grls at least sl@mmin?

  43. That link jostled my memory. Please bring me some marijuana. Medicinal, of course, for my glaucoma.

    Glaucoma candidacy, apparently, is not sufficient to be prescribed Manali’s Best.