We have reached yet another milestone as a community, one that was critical to our development. A desi of Indian origin has seized the coveted Miss Great Britain title!
With so few beauty pageant titles left unclaimed by the rising tide of brown in swimwear and heels, it was very important that we capture each of the remaining tiaras:
British-born Preeti Desai has become the first person of Indian origin to win the Miss Great Britain title replacing original winner Danielle Lloyd after she was stripped off the award for reportedly dating Judge Teddy Sheringham and agreeing to pose for Playboy magazine. [Link]
As with many winners, she has a heart-warming story behind her victory, one of filial piety:
Preeti gave all credit to her mum, who is recovering, from a serious illness. “When she was crowned Miss Great Britain she rang to tell me and said, ‘The crown is for you.’ I burst into tears. I felt as if I won that crown. I felt as if I am Miss Great Britain. She only wants to see me happy – both my girls do. They want to see me smiling thanks to them I was able to overcome that dreadful illness,” Hema said. [Link]
Like all good desi children, Preeti is multi-talented and ambitious. She worked for years in hair and beauty, before making a career switch to the family fireworks business and she may now be trying to get into property investment. In what I think are her own words:
She then started, and is currently working for the family business G2 Fireworks full time and was made Jr partner, which she built up after years of working for G2 Fireworks from being a child… Recently she decided to move to London and work as a model until she raised enough money to eventually get into the property business. [Link]
If you’re a fan, you can read her myspace page and personal website.
Jai :
Hmm..I’ve been to a lot of desi parties, NETIP, whatever..never met a desi girl above 5’8….
vivek:
Yeah we change biodatas on the 1st date…don’t you? 🙂
So everyone has different criteria man..for some people its height, skin tone, religion, whatever…
and yeah, this is not so much an issue with casual dating ..but come committment time, I do think about it…
JOAT:
I suppose no other race has similar criteria. Its only desi guys..yeah right.. If anything, desi and in fact all girls are WAY more height obsessed than guys..
“If the ideal is very difficult to reach for women, a lot of them will be perpetually unsatisfied with the way they look, which makes it easy to sell them things, beauty products, clothes that make you look thin etc. etc.” Isn’t almost everyone, to varying degrees, perpetually unsatisfied with the way they look?
Isn’t that what marketing is all about? Making people feel unsatisfied in some way about what they are or what they have and convincing them that they need your product?
Tall_Indian_Guy,
It depends on which social circles you move within and the background of the desis at the parties you’ve been to. The Sikh sisters-in-law of one of my best friends are both 5’11”, for example. It’s obviously very much at the upper end of the scale for women of that background too (there are plenty of short Sikh women around), but perhaps it’s slightly more common than usual compared to the Indian average.
I thought it was all about cross breeds now to have beautiful babies 😉
Who are these guys who want “taller” women? Every girl I’ve dated/known has told me that a) (most) guys are insecure about their height b) (all) desi girls want tall guys c) (almost all) desi guys prefer the short/petite/small kind of girl. Reading this thread, I’m beginning to think I live in some kind of alternate universe.
(Just for the record, a girl’s height is the last thing I would consider)
Regarding w/h ratio and heel wearing:
AS JOAT mentioned, it’s the sashay in the walk effect that the heels contribute to. That sahsay accentuates the hips, and that’s what it comes down to in evolutionary terms as Abhi was saying. Salma Hayek has the perfect waist/hip ratio (I think 0.73) biologically speaking, and I’m sure Shakira is pretty close too, and so whether or not they wear heels doesn’t matter. When you are endowed with the “perfect” w/h ratio, it’s pretty evident, and you probably don’t need the sashay to accentuate your hips.
I do, but not narrowly. I’m 6’3″. It’s hard to have a relationship with somebody … say in the 4’11” – 5-2″ range. If somebody is more than a foot shorter than me, it’s hard to hear them in a crowded room and impossible to hear them in a club. [Not that I go to clubs ;)] Similarly, when you hug them, you’re holding their shoulders and they’re holding your waist. It’s a very different thing 😉
That said, I’ve dated in the 5’3″ – 5’9″ range. I’ve never selected on height per se, it’s just worked out that way.
MJ :
Not true man. A lot of other desi guys I know ((including me ), mostly those who are above 6’0 themselves ,prefer taller girls. This does not negate what you said necessarily, I don’t have any data to say what proportion prefers what, but in my experience, its not as rare as you imply.
Not really. I used to date a girl (non desi) who was 5’10 .She was as tall or taller than than me with heels on. I didn’t have a problem with it. I would never think of asking her to wear flats or anything.
and your problem is……
I dont know about anyone else but I married someone I truly like and love, I enjoy his company and I find him incredibly attractive and sexy. We have been married for six years and I get asked about kids all ther time. I DID NOT GET MARRIED TO PROCREATE. The kids will have their own life and own issues regardless of how I screw up, I am going to spend the rest of my life with this person who gives a rat ass that he is short(he isnt) or I am short(I am)! Really people! Abhi, look for a girl you can talk to, not someone that has the alpha gene!
Oh and I wear heels cos they can do things for an outfit that flats just cant and its all about looking good and feeling good, I can soak my feet in the afternoon and they will be good as new!
A few things
Abhi
Bigger biceps than coconuts? And gym shoes over high heels? Why not go for pre-op trannies huh Abhi?
Abhi
Is sarcasm restricted only to those “important” people? Blog Nazi!!!
If you checked out Miss Preeti’s site, she looks far from “stunning”. Maybe her appeal was that she was a atypical desi woman wearing skimpy outfits parading around and talking like mother theresa?? “Oh I love my mummy, she’s the reason I even bothered to enter this pageant. After winning I’m going to give her my crown so she can take over and I can pose nude, become famous, and get into acting and singing which are my true passions in life.” yeah yeah yeah.
Also, wasn’t there some research done on these tall fashion models where they have a genetic disorder that allows them to be as tall as a man, but many are incapable of having children?
tid:
I guess it’s different when you’re that tall. Certain practicalities have to be considered (not everyone can do the Amitabh-Jaya Bachchan thing). Ennis raised the same point. Also, it’s unlikely that anyone over 6 feet tall is going to be insecure about their height.
I was talking more about your “Average Ajay/Vijay or Seema/Reema” who fall in the 5 to 5’9″ feet range. The point I was trying to make was based on the set of people I know/interact with and the common refrain seems to be that Indian guys prefer short/shorter women.
I was given some pseudo-psychological mumbo-jumbo about that bringing out the “protective instinct” in the guy and making him feel good about himself as opposed to being intimidated by a tall girl.
Amini, you are a dick. I am not going to waste anymore words on you. Someone ban him.
: Amini, you are a dick. I am not going to waste anymore words on you. Someone ban him.
Would the opinion change if Amini mol is a “she” instead of a he? CinamonRani Back to profiling class everyone ..!
Why am I a dick and why should I get banned? Amini is not a guys name. I think CinnamonHater should get banned for going completely offtopic and insulting for no reason. Tool.
Dunno. Maybe. But please respect the mutants.
Anyone who’s been in frat-boy group discussion knows that all males are perverts, but each in his own unique way. I will not let a vocal minority ascribe their views to all men. Anyone who says men like tall women, or women exactly three inches or less shorter than them, is guilty of oversimplifying the wonderful variety and nuance of male heterosexual perversion.
My interest in the female form is not fit for a respectable frat-boy discussion such as this, but I don’t care about height, nor has the thought of future offspring ever entered my mind, and I don’t like it when some dude/dudette comes in and ascribes their thoughts to ‘all men’. So next time if you have a viewpoint you’d like to express, please be a man and use the first person singular, and don’t hide behind the plurals.
sakshi likes the gigantic b00biez
No woman is going to use the word coconuts, really, and if you are female I apologies. Correction: you are being a bitch! And I think you should be banned because you have nothing to contribute and choose only to insult in every comment you make. I am not hater dear, you are!
sakshi:
good point overall, except the use of the word ‘perversion’! Preference …
I always look for girls I can talk to first and foremost. Intelligence is the primary quality I consciously look for (followed by a great sense of humor). All these other physical traits we’ve been mentioning are subconscious cues that the vast majority of us follow even when we don’t realize it (e.g., expressa who is getting upset with me because I don’t believe her reasons for wearing heels). I believe that Papa Darwin and others that followed him are right. Maybe my faith is misplaced and I’ll be weeded out of the genepool 🙂
Man, Abhi, why do you keep ignoring that, regardless of the height issue, heels make women’s legs and other Special Features look really nice? Even from a completely male, Neanderthal perspective, that’s gotta be relevant.
I mean evolution isn’t always able to optimize EVERY trait, dude. Especially when you’re dealing with cultural development. And individuals acting on sexual selection don’t always prioritize the same things. Some people will compromise on tallness if the heels make different parts of a person look better. And of course, I think JoAT’s perspective on woman-on-woman beauty rivalries makes a LOT of sense from a cultural perspective — with the actual need to “look better for a man” gone, maybe accentuating the legs and butt helps a lot in THAT rivalry, even if not in “landing a man”?
In any case, there are a billion different things that people find attractive, and they’re prioritized a billion different ways. Not everyone is going to have all the same things. Not every attractive person has all the same features. The heart of evolutionary biology is variation, isn’t it?
btw, I apologize for all the objectification going on in that last post, but I was talking about the whole “animal brain” view of human behavior…
CinnamonRani:
Word. I have no problems with discussions of this sort. Everyone’s entitled to their fun, etc, and these discussion are entertaining, but really, why did it take 360 posts for someone to say the obvious?
Is it so obvious to everyone that it doesn’t need to be said, or are we all really that shallow?
You misunderstand. I am not denying that heels make a woman’s legs look fabulous, and that hip swaying is quite enticing. All I am saying is that both those qualities LOSE OUT to the fact that in almost every instance a man is more attracted to a woman shorter than him (or at least the same height). I am also saying that a shorter woman has access to a larger pool of potential mates than a taller woman. This is true throughout most of the animal kingdom. That’s all I’ve been saying. Thus, appearing taller might initially attract a mate (because as Anna and others point out, tall offspring are an advantage) but it won’t keep him around. After all, high heels don’t carry DNA that can be passed on to offspring to make them taller.
Now, on a personal level I like women in gym shoes better than in high heels (although I don’t go for pre-op trannies as some would have you believe) 🙂
Ok, enough with this, now I really do need to get to work.
All I am saying is that both those qualities LOSE OUT to the fact that in almost every instance a man is more attracted to a woman shorter than him
i am not that attracted to women who are much shorter than me (i prefer them +/- 1 inch of my 5’8). but i am like a 1 out of 100 case in my conversation with other males. in the 1950s some girls who were growing ‘too fast’ were given drugs to stunt their growth because of worries of finding a man.
Personally I always get worked up when I hear something like “Oh you look fabulous do you have a date?” At what point in our evolution would people stop thinking that the only reason a woman gets dressed up is for a man? I mean we have to look at ourselves far more than others. We love ourselves. Most of the time we dress for ourselves because it makes us happy and confident and when you feel all those things that is what you get out of the world. A man has very little to do with it on an average day!
And please please pleast heels aren’t for the height, I’m still short even with 4 inches of heels on. It’s for the sex appeal, the confidence, the gait, the way the world around you reacts to you feeling and being all those things.
Seriously? Not trying to offend you at all but it’s not like you are that tall, what’s the deal with wanting someone as tall as you. An inch can be hair and the flattest shoe.
Mamma mia! How I would love to be that Union Jack.
y’all still talking about this? seriously?
I think this pashu has lost her bloody mind.
So because I’m female I can’t refer to breasts as coconuts? SEXIST!
Let me introduce you to some other words in my vocabulary: Puri mol. That’s your new name.
leave me alone please and stay on topic.
And some of us have a thing for a girl in Doc Martens, go figure 😉
Amini, I know you’re new here so I’ll take the time to reach out to you before taking punitive action. Your tone isn’t always cute or bratty, it’s often grating and abusive; some of your comments are a violation of our policies. While CinammonRani shouldn’t have called you that, she has been a part of this community for months, so we know she isn’t a troll. You’ve said some uncalled for things about Abhi, but he created the site you insult him on and no, he’s not a Nazi (and personally, I think that is a SHITTY thing to call someone).
We don’t take all of our cues from South Asian culture, but when it comes to respecting those who literally came here before you, we definitely show established members of the SM community more respect than you have been willing to give.
CinnamonRani and the majority of people here may not understand what you’re saying, but I speak Malayalam and if you are going to insult our commenters in that language, it’s not going to hide your intent. You could be the next favorite in this community, if your contributions are interesting and well-expressed, but no one will ever know what potential brilliance you could bring if you get banned. I hope you consider whether or not you care to be here; if you choose to stay, please communicate that happy development via your words and tone.
I don’t know what went on in other threads, but please people if you can’t play nice, ignore each other. And CinnamonRani, I like you, but there was no need for vulgarities. Disagree with a person’s statement, but don’t go calling the person names, especially not that kind.
Can’t you two ladies get along? Please? I’d hate to shut the thread down b/c it degenerated into name calling.
In the words of Carrie Bradshaw-in Manholos (an approximation): “I spent $5 on a cab for the last four blocks. These shoes are killing me, but I love them.”
Sometimes, style is everything. I think all of us ladies have owned a pair of “those” shoes at least once. 😉
Just piggybacking on Ennis’ thoughts– we always get new readers, but recently we’ve attracted readers who comment vs. lurk. They have no idea what went on on this site before their arrival (which is too bad, b/c this is a bit like “24”, i.e. if you missed something, you might want to go back), they just observe what they see as soon as they walk in our door. I just stood up for our upperclassmen, now I hope you varsity players repay my loyalty by behaving yourselves in front of the Freshman. Set a good example, would you? Mommy’s banning finger is sore today. 😉
Seriously? Not trying to offend you at all but it’s not like you are that tall, what’s the deal with wanting someone as tall as you. An inch can be hair and the flattest shoe.
it’s my deal. what’s it do you?
I am sorry guys! I let her get me upset, I have been reading/commenting for months here and I feel you guys are family and I didnt like her hating on Abhi! It wont happen again, I’ll play nice. 🙂
CR: That’s my girl. 🙂
(I know, I’m protective of our Abhi too. It happens.) 😉
Alrighty then!!! Looks like some people around here need a drink to chill out.
That is so true. Beyond the first date (back when I was dating), I couldn’t imagine wanting to go out with somebody if they weren’t fun to be with. For me, that meant holding up their end of a conversation, and other kinds of things like that more than if they were DD. Yeah, in addition to that if they were DD, well…let’s just say I would hold that against them. 😉
When can we expect a black or white girl, or even an Indian girl from North East (Meghalaya, Manipur, Mizoram, Assam etc) get crowned as Miss India?
lol – a white/black girl winning miss india?!
i think this person meant to say miss britain…
Diya Mirza is half white and was 2nd runner up.
We almost got a white girl as Prime Minister. Will you settle for that?
I dream of her and I dancing to Kelluri Vaanil
It might happen.
correction: italian ;).. dunno is miss sonia would consider herself white.. but who the heck knows….
lara dutta is nordic/indian miss india 2000 and infamous for dating derek jeter…
Grrr…rrr..RRROAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRR
That was the saber toothed tiger, before he was killed and cooked into a fine kurma by Abhi.
Number 400!!! Yeah! Sorry, I have nothing of substance to add.
I knew it! I knew a Mandak/Godav guy would jump for Number 400.