It’s time for wedding of the year! No, not that other wedding across the ocean. I’m talking about the wedding where moustachioed Rajiv finally gets wedded to Vimi on the show Outsourced! It’s been a tumultuous first season run for Outsourced, and this Thursday night on NBC the season finale comes to a glorious Bollywood climactic finish. Will the finish be final or will Outsourced be picked up for another season? The cast and crew has been advocating in the community to make sure the show comes back for another season.
I sat down virtually with the bride-to-be, the gorgeous shaadi-rific Noureen DeWulf about her time on set, a real life shaadi, and her perspective on facial hair. Here’s what she had to say.
Shaadi Mubarak, Noureen! This Thursday night you get married, in an all out big Indian wedding on the set of Outsourced for their season finale. Oh so very Bollywood. You came on later as a guest star later in the season, as Rajiv’s fiancée Vimi. What has it been like to be on the set of Outsourced for past few episodes?
Working on the show was a truly great experience. The actors for the most part are a humble and talented group and it is really fun to work with other Indian actors. The producers are pretty incredible people also, having come from and worked on other great shows, so it is a very fun and talented set to be on. I came on in their last few episodes of the season so you could really feel how tight knit they all were and how much they enjoyed their jobs, which is really nice to be a part of.
Outsourced is probably one of the first television series with a largely South Asian cast. I have to admit, I wasn’t a fan of the concept of the show after watching the pilot episode. But the shows that I’ve seen recently are really funny, having moved away from the Tyler-Perry-desified-type jokes, and the characters have far more depth and complexity to them. Do you feel the show has matured? Why do you think it’s important to have a show with a South Asian ensemble cast on American television?>I have always been supportive of the show, more importantly I support ethnic actors, writers and storylines on network television for all the obvious reasons. Ethnic diversity is true to life and so it should have a place on television. All shows mature over the course of a season. Especially the first season. The writers start to get to know the actors better, and so they write jokes for each actor’s particular comedic sensibilities thereby the jokes often seem better played. Chemistry and writing take time to build, this is true for any television show.
You yourself recently got engaged to the delectable Buffalo Sabre hockey player Ryan Miller. Congratulations! Did you see this Outsourced shaadi as rehearsal run? Did you get any wedding ideas? Elephants? Saris? Beach side shaadi?
Yes, I would like to have an elephant at my wedding also, but not for the groom to ride on, just to pet and feed.
I would imagine that the set of Outsourced has novelty toys scattered throughout. Was there one item that you wish you could have taken and kept for your own?
I could see the hard hat with the beer holders making me popular at house parties.
I met you when you were filming The Taqwacores where you played the burqua clad riot grrl Rabeya. I thought you were great in it and played the role just as I had imagined it while reading the book. What was that experience like and why did you choose to do that role?
Thank you. The book, the director, the vision, and the character were just a few of the reasons why I chose to do that movie. It was an incredible experience, everyone was very passionate.
*You recently have played RJ Berger’s purity cloaked high school sweetheart, Matthew McConaughey’s turtlenecked assistant, a burqua clad riot grrl, and now the quintessential Indian bride. Quite the eclectic mix. What’s next for Noureen DeWulf?
Breakaway a film I recently worked in comes out in September of this year, I’m back on TNT’s Hawthorne as Nurse Judy, and I am anxiously awaiting word on the pilot I shot with Minnie Driver called Hail Mary.
How attractive is Rajiv’s moustache up close and personal?
I actually like moustaches. So I thought it was pretty attractive.
To catch part 2 of the season finale of Outsourced, keep tuned in to NBC and check your local listing. To catch up and watch part 1 of the shaadi here. And of course, to keep tabs on Noureen, follow her @noureendewulf.
First photo by: Beck Star; Second photo by: Noureen DeWulf’s iPhone
weird. i watched a few episodes of that show and i had no idea that vimi was noureen dewulf! makeup and context makes a difference i guess.
What Razib said.
Noureen Dewulf and Rebecca Hazelwood both have whitewashed their names. I wonder if they got into a WASP-off?
I wonder if they got into a WASP-off?
hazelwood is mixed according to wikipedia.
Razib Khan: hazelwood is mixed according to wikipedia.
I’ve actually read her profile on Wikipedia in the past, BEFORE it became edited. When I read about her background, it was something like what you may see here.
@Alina: The Christians of India have names reflecting their faith, just like the Pakistanis. DeWulf is the Indo-American version of the Pashtun Dilip Kumar.
in any case b_m, i had to run. i thought your comment was kind of low, though not outside of the range of stuff brownz are wont to say. several front page contributors have expressed your general opinion if less crassly. i’ll let alina make her case, i pretty much agree with her general arguments so far.
How has she whitewashed her name? Noureen is a fairly common Muslim name; her family are Gujurati Muslims. Her surname is clearly European, but it is her family’s name that she was born into. Saw this online:
Of course, DeWulf can draw on her own experiences if she gets to play the role of Mindy full time—especially because she feels a strong connection to her heritage. “I speak Hindi and Gujarati in addition to Spanish and French,” she points out. DeWulf, whose family is originally from Pune, India, is often questioned about her last name that hardly sounds South Asian. She shrugs it off. “I’m full Indian, and I have a full connection to who I am.”
I suppose you would also say all the Mayalee Christians with last names like “Joseph” and “Thomas” have whitewashed themselves too? And I guess all the Muslim South Asians have Arab-washed ourselves by straying from Hindu names….hate to break it to ya, but you don’t need to be another Patel or Apu to be brown.
The hyperlink that I was referring to is: here.
@Mahesh – An unfair comparison imo, because Kumar was born Mohammad Yusuf Khan and changed it to Dilip Kumar for publicity reasons (to be more successful in India, I would guess). Noureen DeWulf was born Noureen DeWulf; what would be disingenuous is if she changed her name from her family’s name to a random Indian name. A name is not necessarily reflective of one’s personal beliefs and heritage; Razib and I have very Muslim last names and yet we’re hardly representative of the faith. If the woman is full Indian, was born to parents from Pune, speaks Hindi and Gujarati, and claims to be very connected to her heritage….then who are you to call her whitewashed?
as for hazelwood i have no clue and honestly don’t care because I don’t think much of her as an actress; her accent on Outsourced will go from sounding like a poor Indian imitation to full on British within an episode….
I had a chance to meet a lot of the Outsourced gang over a few days at the Indian Film Festival Los Angeles. They’re all super down to earth folks and the one thing you take away is that while they advocate for supporting the show, and are genuinely thankful that you do, they don’t go off on themselves or the show as something that’s “great for the Indian community”.
Yes, everyone realizes it puts desi’s front and center, but what the cast and crew seem to state, and what I think is not so much support it because it’s Indian, but, support it because it’s good.
I gave Outsourced a chance, and yes, the first few episodes were sort of ho-hum, but it’s finding its legs. Better than watching Snook 🙂
P.S. Noureen… hubba hubba!
When she says the actors are “for the most part, a humble and talented group,” I have to wonder who isn’t included in the group…
speaking of names as I got more involved with the Pakistani community alot of Pak pals suggested I revert back to “Zakaryia” since it was more authentic and “true to my culture”.
I found it weird considering I was born as Zachary and I’ve spelt it as such all my life. I don’t see the point in judging other people’s “Desiness”, that’s what makes the culture sometimes confining (how we have to behave and act to conform to certain norms).
And anyway don’t Gujaratis have very some Anglicised names (my friend’s surname is Merchant).
Pity the other comment thread got closed; I was angling to answer DesiinScotland.
Zachary: And anyway don’t Gujaratis have very some Anglicised names (my friend’s surname is Merchant).
Merchant is a common last name amongst Ismailis, and Ismailis are Kaatchi Gujarati. Merchant, however, is an Anglicizing of their surname during the Raj. Some people with “Mirchandani” as their surname change it to “Merchant”.
I think that there are people on this board who resent Piyush “Bobby” Jindal and Nimrata “Nikki” Haley’s repudiation of their heritage to fit in. I, for one, commend AJ Rahman or Indian actress Jayasudha for converting to Islam and Christianity, respectively, in a nation where the majority are not either of the two religions. It’s apparent that they converted not to win a broader audience. Moreover, I stand shoulder-to-shoulder with the persecuted Baha’is of Iran. They didn’t covert to this great faith to garner popularity.
“weird. i watched a few episodes of that show and i had no idea that vimi was noureen dewulf! makeup and context makes a difference i guess.” Razib Khan “What Razib said.” Anna
Noureen DeWulf is not the original actress who played Vimi. She replaced Sarayu Rao. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0710605/
“I think that there are people on this board who resent Piyush “Bobby” Jindal and Nimrata “Nikki” Haley’s repudiation of their heritage to fit in. I, for one, commend AJ Rahman or Indian actress Jayasudha for converting to Islam and Christianity, respectively, in a nation where the majority are not either of the two religions. It’s apparent that they converted not to win a broader audience. Moreover, I stand shoulder-to-shoulder with the persecuted Baha’is of Iran. They didn’t covert to this great faith to garner popularity.”
The world would be a better place if we focused on ourselves and helped others when we could.
People get very emotional about non-issues, there is no “authentic” culture; its being redefined constantly.
On the Royal wedding (which was incidentally St Catherine’s day). St Catherine of Siena quoted by the Bishop of London: “Be who God meant you to be and you will set the world on fire …”
I think the quotation works in a secular context too. good on Bobby and Nikki, they didn’t repudiate they redefined their desiness, desiness is not a slave collar but a tool of liberation; its always been extremely syncretic (seems the Victorians put a stop to that).
OK, tht makes sense there was a different actress earlier because I was wondering why the actress seemed familiar only in recent episodes.
I thought the last couple of shows started to lose steam after a promising middle part of the season. Going with this outlandish wedding may cut down on the comedy factor.
People get very emotional about non-issues, there is no “authentic” culture; its being redefined constantly
Exactly; I can’t speak for other cultures, but I’ve noticed here in America, it is almost as though Whites mostly define themselves as individuals first and foremost (hard core Christians being the exception) while other ethnic groups, and most particularly Asian ones, define ourselves more by collective group identities; we label anyone who doesn’t fit into those self-induced boxes as “coconuts” or “bananas” etc….or “whitewashed”. I think it’s a response to being a (newer) minority in a majority culture – we tend to rely more on a group identity to tell us who to be and how to live. My cousin made a joke about this recently; my dad asked him when he decided she wanted to apply to Med schools, and he responded with “since like 2nd grade…I realized it was that or be a cab driver.” (we’re paki’s, geddit?)
I would personally never think of Haley as some kind of sellout because god forbid she chose to marry a Methodist White guy; my ancestors were Hindus and Zoroastrians who converted Islam to fit in with the majority culture of imperialists to the West, after all. I read on Wiki that she married him in both a Methodist and Sikh ceremony and attends services for both religions. She also chose to name her kids Rena and Nalin, not Caitlin and Ryan, just sayin’. There is a huge tendency in this country to judge politicians based on where they chill out Sunday mornings rather than their political stances.
I thought the last couple of shows started to lose steam after a promising middle part of the season. Going with this outlandish wedding may cut down on the comedy factor.
Same, the first few episodes were hard to sit through so I stopped tuning in, then started watching again middle of the season and it was pretty good, now it’s kind of stale again…or maybe stale isn’t the right word. The comedy just seems so predictable or over the topic or cheesy sometimes.
“Noureen DeWulf is not the original actress who played Vimi. She replaced Sarayu Rao. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0710605/“
It’s Dick York/Dick Sargeant all over again.
Back to the show – I wonder if the shifting of timeslots resulted in the writers thinking they have to play by the book. Along with others, I thought a couple of the middle episodes were good, but the wedding episode seems pretty ordinary, aside from Manmeet having his chest hair shaved in the shape of a heart. It seems the Asha character is the least developed of the cast.
DeWulf is not her given name, its a stage name. She has stated in the past she took it to protect her family.
@Alina I suggest you create a Twitter profile so that your comments don’t disappear inton Anon.
I don’t watch the show since it doesn’t broadcast in London and I can’t manage online viewing (except for youtube; I’m a pseudo-luddite). Noureen (regardless of her stage name, which is actually very cool I like the name Wolf) is quite hot though (Saurya Rao is also pretty cute) and she’s smart having gone for the All-American guy. I tell all my Muslim female friends to date and marry out (also my Baha’i firends); it reminds me of what a story about my Indian-Canadian ex-colleague.
He was an Indian-Canadian guy from Toronto and his mother was constantly telling him he had to marry an Indian girl (i think he’s with a french girl now and before a lebanese maronite, so he goes for francophone it seems). He replied back but Mom you let my sister get married to some white guy. His mom shot back but your brother-in-law is smart, he went and married the “Indian girl”.
I think the great arbitrage for liberal desi Pakistani men (erm myself lol) is to marry Indian girls (since we share the same cultural values) but for liberal desi Pakistan girls to either marry Indian guys (who are much more cultural, tolerant and broad-minded if they’re families are okay with them marrying Pakistani Muslims) or better yet Western men (who seem absolutely the most broadminded and love eastern ways of living). Sorry to generalise but its really a sad sight to see many modern Muslim girls in their late 30s early 40s (advanced age for child-rearing) looking to meet the right guy; i.e Mr. Muslim who also happens to be a doctor, lawyer or banker is devout but also allows his wife to do whatever she wants and doesn’t restrict her in any way (if a guy does exist the next thing he does is go back to the Desh and pick his choice of mate from the hundreds of willing candidates).
I’ve noticed with cultures hung up (read obsessed) on chastity (particularly female chastity) like the Muslim & Baha’i ones, the guys want to go for “dolls” (younger by a decade, “virginal”, no life experience and petite & pretty with preferably a showy education & chest). It really disadvantages the non-dolls who have personality, brains and even “looks” but just don’t fit that criteria. Sad really; there’s just such a glut of women that’s not being filled by market demand because of ideology or religion (sometimes for certain Pak events I have literally been the only single guy there but also younger, on average, by a decade).
(sometimes for certain Pak events I have literally been the only single guy there but also younger, on average, by a decade).
Guess you are — consciously or not — a cub seeking a cougar. Rawrr!
“I’ve noticed with cultures hung up (read obsessed) on chastity (particularly female chastity) like the Muslim & Baha’i ones, the guys want to go for “dolls” (younger by a decade, “virginal”, no life experience and petite & pretty with preferably a showy education & chest). It really disadvantages the non-dolls who have personality, brains and even “looks” but just don’t fit that criteria. Sad really; there’s just such a glut of women that’s not being filled by market demand because of ideology or religion (sometimes for certain Pak events I have literally been the only single guy there but also younger, on average, by a decade).”
While that may be true, consider the financial pressure on the guy in question. Focusing on IA men for a moment, given the higher-than-average income level, for any guy who does not meet that income level is often overlooked as a suitable boy. In general, women do not marry below their economic level. If a prospective groom cannot provide the standard of living the bride’s father did, he may not even be in the running. Furthermore, the man has to earn enough to support not only the nuclear family, but has to plan for an extended family as well, because you never know when Grandpa/Grandma will have to move in.
Returning to the show, I hope they can get their footing soon, because the cast does seem talented.
Can we just give props to this show for making Indian names more familiar with mainstream audiences? Priya, Gupta, Asha sure easy names(Personally, I think the white guy pronounces Asha better than Cornershop singer). But Madhuri? Common for Indians. But not so easy to pronounce for whites. Nice to see such a name in the character list.
ah good ol’ SM, been sometime since we had a NAME analysis day. feels like Mutiny of old. 😀
i like Noreen, only seen her in a few things. thought she was very Good in “West Bank Story”.
Speaking of Madhuri, she is one of my favorite characters on the show. I’m glad that the writers/producers decided to feature Anisha Nagarajan more, develop her character and showcase her talent as the series has progressed. Pairing her up with Ajeet (the silent Sikh) in the first of the two wedding episodes was unexpected but I like the idea of them as a couple and would like to see how that would develop next season. Pinky has become quite a scene stealer as well. She has become almost as funny as Gupta. Now THAT would be an entertaining couple.
“I’ve noticed with cultures hung up (read obsessed) on chastity (particularly female chastity) like the Muslim & Baha’i ones,
well, neither Muslim nor Baha’i is a culture. They are religious faiths, though they did originate respectively in Arabia and Persia. American Baha’is I know are not “obssessed” with chastity, but they find it a bewildering challenge, since after the 60s, “chastity” was more of a joke than anything, in America. Maybe you are speaking of eastern Baha’is. It used to be that persons of all religions and most cultures, had at least passing acquaintance with at least the concept of chastity. Nowadays, in Gotham City, the whole thing takes some ‘splainin. Baha’i adherents are exhorted to learn all they can about their love-interest’s character and behavior, and these qualities are considered far more important (in theory) than looks. But of course in practice, most people have trouble living entirely according to their moral or ethical committments.
I wish they moved a little slower on the Madhuri subplot with the Sikh guy. A hint during the poetry reading would have been enough. Then again, the creators probably realize there is no guarantee there will be a second season. It’s a pity because other than Parks and Recreation, the other NBC sitcoms are aging badly, especially 30 Rock which has had a mix of some great bits in the middle of some unwatchable episodes. Office has a chance to turnaround with some fresh infusion of talent.
I was watching CBS from 8 to 9 and didnt realize there was an Indian character in another show on their Thursday schedule – Rules of Engagement. So we got Indian characters with British accents, American accents, Indian accents in that Thursday lineup on CBS and NBC. At least one show in eveyr time slot from 8 to 11. Not even Eastern Asians have had that kind of representation on network TV despite the headstart they have had. So Indian actors are getting their fair share of opportunities in fairly diverse roles instead of just the “Gupta” roles. It’s a pretty quick turnaround after decades of underrepresentaiton.
“Not even Eastern Asians have had that kind of representation on network TV “
It is not just in front of the camera. There are notable IA writers/producers on 30 Rock, The Middle, and CSI. “Modern Family” had an episode this year where the middle child, Alex, was complaining that her family does not provide the educational environment of her chief classroom competitor, Sanjay Patel.
Well I was referring to the Thursday one night block. I think East Asians are still more plentiful in the overall media.
“the guys want to go for “dolls” (younger by a decade, “virginal”, no life experience and petite & pretty with preferably a showy education & chest). It really disadvantages the non-dolls who have personality, brains and even “looks” but just don’t fit that criteria.”
Zachary this is what most successful guys want…not just desis. Look at the second wives of most powerbrokers in hollywood or wallstreet they’re all tight bodied hotties 20+ years younger than the man.
The 30-40 year old women with advanced degrees and careers have to understand that most men…especially the hot/sucessful men they want don’t give a flying fu@& about their brains..sorry its true ladies. Any man between 30-50 who is alpha can have his pick of the hotties…as far as desi men go indian girls are lucky, most sucessful desi men lack the interpersonal skills to pick up the hot white girls they really want, so they settle with a desi girl who vibes like ‘mummy’..this gives the sucessful desi girls running to fat in their 30s a way to get married…sorry this is just the way it is.
This whole conversation about what men and women (girls?) want/get is so mind-blowingly stereotypical.
I think anyone who thinks like that is probably going to have a problem finding anyone.. if guys only see two categories of women: “hot, young, inexperienced, high maintenance” vs. “Stay at home fat mummy types” then no wonder they don’t end up with anything!
Life is more nuanced than that… you do realize that women have things like personalities, likes, dislikes, senses of humor, hobbies, interests… right? As in…. people need to find someone they have things in common with.. can have a conversation with… etc… not just a “doll” or a “mummy”.
Bleck.
P.S. My fiance is Indian, and I know quite a few white women who ended up marrying Indian men— the secret? Finding people with things in common that they wanted to share their life with… not “alpha” male type territory marking or tons of money or people who are good at being “suave” with pick-up lines.
Guys that treat women as some sort of accessory rather than a person– they are the ones that are going to have a hard time finding a lady.
I’d like to add a point or two to anil’s.
To be successful, you have to control many factors, including family. If you find a low-maintenance, stay-at-home woman who will take care of all domestic issues, then you have more time at work. I believe hot-shot executives on the make do look for low-maintenance women.
Where does that leave the intelligent well-educated women? And what about the well-educated mild-mannered men who are not hot-shot executives/ My conjecture is that after many years, they start changing their perspectives. The intelligent well-educated women start to realize that they cannot always lead front and center. The well-educated mild-mannered men start to realize that they have to negotiate themselves into positions of leadership.
“I believe hot-shot executives on the make do look for low-maintenance women.”
absolutely…walk into any posh new york bar and you will see the hotties drawn to the wealthy…they will wear latex and do the dishes if you are a powerful enough man.
“The intelligent well-educated women start to realize that they cannot always lead front and center”
this may take a while with female entitlement on the rise. But you see it from time to time from high powered women in their 30s when they realize they have squandered their youth/fertility for a dream that was never theirs to begin with.
But Anil will all women settle for a hairy hot shot tarantula?
Bad news. Rizwan has tweeted that Outsourced is not coming back for another season. https://twitter.com/#!/Riz_Manji/status/69107049170083840
topaz no need to get sensitive…its just the truth
how? Prove it. Is it because you and et al say so? Who made you God? L’Oreal? lol yawn
topaz you already proved it for me.
Too bad Outsourced was not renewed, just as it was showing its chops. This year has been tough. One show that was terrific, the boxing drama “Lights Out” and one promising show “The Chicago Code” were also not renewed for a second season.
“as far as desi men go indian girls are lucky, most sucessful desi men lack the interpersonal skills to pick up the hot white girls they really want, so they settle with a desi girl who vibes like ‘mummy’..this gives the sucessful desi girls running to fat in their 30s a way to get married”
HAHAHA, that’s one for the archives. Is the handle “Successful Indian man from New York” taken? You could have made it more authoritative that way. I’ll tell you made it really obvious: “Desi men”, but “Indian girls” LOL.
Sh!t snacks. 🙁
There, fixed it for ya 😉
Meanwhile, the hot desi chicks like Norene DeWulf end up with successful White guys like Ben Miller. No need to get sensitive anil…it’s just the truth.
@AnonymousHippo
“Meanwhile, the hot desi chicks like Norene DeWulf end up with successful White guys like Ben Miller. No need to get sensitive anil…it’s just the truth.”
I think Anil was referring to us mere mortals, Noureen is in a different league.
An element of bitchiness here…
Yes, but also an element of truth there…
Well the media industry is somewhat biased against hiring Indian man-Indian woman couples:
Sanjay Gupta(CNN, spouse Rebecca Olson), Fareed Zakaria (CNN, spouse Paula Throckmorton), Zain Verjee (CNN, umarried but admits to dating freely), Sumi Das(CNN, spouse Tim Ryan), Ali Velshi (CNN, spouse Lori Wachs), Monita Rajpal(CNN, dating Pedro Pinto), Kiran Chetry (FOX, spouse Chris Knowles), Dinesh D’Souza(FOX, spouse Dixie Brubaker), Uma Pemmaraju (FOX, spouse Andrew Petkun), Reena Ninan (FOX, fiancee Kevin Peraino), Asha Blake(KTLA-TV, spouse Mark Dusbabek), Priya David(CBS, spouse Alex Clemens), Sukanya Krishnan(WPIX, spouse Eric Schroeder), Kanak Huq(BBC, engaged to Charlie Brooker), Geeta Guru-Murthy(Channel 4, married to englishman), Krishnan Guru-Murthy(Channel 4, spouse Lisa), Sangita Myska(BBC3, dating Ben McCarthy), Daljit Dhaliwal(ABC/Al-Jazeera English, spouse Lee Patrick Sullivan)
I know only two – Vinita Nair(ABC, spouse Osman Nawaz), Shibani Joshi (Fox, spouse Rahul Advani) that married in.
Maybe marrying out “sanitizes them” for public viewing. And since hot minority women tend to gravitate towards that industry it might appear that way.
But in real life I find the opposite to be true, all the women in my family that married out are definitely uglier/fatter (I don’t just mean too dark for “Indian standards” or something) than their sisters or cousins.
I didn’t mean to make a sweeping sociological statement with my comment about Norene, it was more of a retort to Anil’s implication that successful Indian women are “lucky” that successful Indian men can’t get the hot White girls they really want and have to settle for Indian women instead. Perhaps it may sound bitchy, but in general, in America at least, Indian/Asian women seem to be more desired than their male counterparts, and I think Indian/Asian men resent that. Anil attributed that to lack of interpersonal skills (nerdy Asian/Indian stereotype) but I don’t think that’s it.
Your idea about them being “sanitized” for public viewing is interesting, but I don’t think that’s it; our president is a successful smart black guy who married a successful smart black woman, and I think people would think less of him had he married, a blonde whitebread trophy wife instead.
In real life all the fat/ugly Indian women I know (only 2 admittedly) had arranged marriages because they’re Muslims. The only difference I’ve found between Indians who marry out versus those that marry in is that the former are usually less religious or atheist.
“but in general, in America at least, Indian/Asian women seem to be more desired than their male counterparts”
Hmm, I have yet to see that pan out. The outmarriage rates between Indian American men and women are about the same (in contrast to East Asians). It is true the men of all races “desire” anything that moves and women are circumspect in giving it up if you are talking in a purely carnal context.
It’s too bad NBC didn’t give this show one more chance considering the lack of promotion and the crappy timeslot it got moved to. Hopefully, all the actors got enough exposure to get other jobs.
As far as some readers coming up with ridiculous theories of Indian-White marriage pairings giving them an advatnage in the media, are you kidding me? Did you guys ever consider the reason why many Indians in the media may end up marrying a person of another race is because of the composition of their peer group?
Quite frankly, I have never went out with an Indian woman. The only Indians in my social circle are my relatives. Most of my friends are other races.
I can see why the race of the spouse makes a difference for the public in regards to politics, but no one really cares about most of the Indian Americans in the media that were listed or who their spouses are. Ideology also plays a huge role: Dinesh D’Souza for example, is a hardcore Christian Evangelical, so what are the odds he was going to end up with an Indian woman, considering most Indians in America are Hindus or Muslims?
@Lindsey
“Guys that treat women as some sort of accessory rather than a person– they are the ones that are going to have a hard time finding a lady.”
Maybe not for some/many ABCD women but I can tell you that is pretty much the reality for many non-ABCD women here and in south asia. Things are changing for a select few but mostly it is all about wealth, money, status, etc.
But isn’t it all about who you choose for friends and where you look?
I have never had problems finding friends/prospective partners amongst my group of friends… it may be a smaller but more meaningful group. Also we probably don’t fit into consumeristic norms of beauty, dress (i.e. My fiance is gasp shorter than me)
I think that if you a lot of who you find depends on where you look… If you go to the stereotypical conventional “pick-up” spot such as a bar, you are more likely to find people either not looking for something serious, or with a certain superficial sense (i.e. dress up and ‘play the game’, find someone else playing the game). On the other hand, if you go to a poetry reading by your favorite poet you may happen upon someone with similar interests who is not playing “the game”.
What are the odds that he ends up with any woman? At least that is what I thought until I saw him with his wife in some magazine article. Not just his dorky looks, but the way he speaks, makes you wonder how this guy was able to get a date.
Dinesh is a Catholic. Not an evangelic. Please get your categories correct before spewing your hate.
First of all, I didn’t say anything hateful about him, unless mentioning his name and religion is “hateful” to you?
Second, he was born Catholic, but became a Born-Again Evangelic Christian. He is President of King’s College, an Evangelical College. He married an Evangelical woman and attended several Evangelical churches; they are raising their daughter as an Evangelic too. Here are some Dinesh D’Souza quotes:
My wife Dixie is an Evangelical Christian. When our daughter Danielle was born in 1995, we started attending a non-denominational church in the Washington, D.C. area. At first my reason for this was “family unity.†I also thought that religious education usually passes through the mom, so it made sense for us to go to her church. We moved to California in 1999 and started attending a church very near our home called Horizon Christian Fellowship. Horizon Christian Fellowship is a non-denominational Evangelical church, part of the Calvary Chapel movement. There I found a Christianity that was really powerful and alive, one that infused all aspects of life. Slowly I found myself re-engaging with the faith. I began to read the Bible with new intensity. Over time, my faith deepened. By 2002, I was fully committed and began to consider myself a born-again Christian. A lovely book on faith by J. Gresham Machen encouraged me to realize that we become Christians not by accepting that Christ died to save others or that he died to save mankind but that he died to save me. This is what it means to be a born again Christian.
“I do not describe myself as Catholic today. But I don’t want to renounce it either because it’s an important part of my background. I’m an American citizen, but I wouldn’t reject the Indian label because it’s part of my heritage,” D’Souza said.”
So perhaps YOU should get your categories straight before spewing ignorance.
“What are the odds that he ends up with any woman? At least that is what I thought until I saw him with his wife in some magazine article. Not just his dorky looks, but the way he speaks, makes you wonder how this guy was able to get a date. “
DId’nt he date Ann Coulter?
Yes, the word is that not only did he date Coulter, but somehow he was able to date Ingraham. Funny, considering Coulter always derides liberals as not being manly enough, yet she dates a dork who speaks like a muppet. Can you visualize the two having sex?
Ramsh Ponnuri is another one with that emasculated voice. I don’t even know what Jindal’s real accent is at this point, it keeps changing.
Reihan Salam speaks like a regular guy. Maybe nasal, but still forceful.
“Yes, the word is that not only did he date Coulter, but somehow he was able to date Ingraham. Funny, considering Coulter always derides liberals as not being manly enough, yet she dates a dork who speaks like a muppet. Can you visualize the two having sex?”
Not really surprising, most men (including me) are shallow and largely concerned with superficial traits: looks, tits, legs, etc. Women on the other hand look for compatability and commonality more often. It is likely they hit it off on their mutual conservatism.
Lol. Spoken like a man who has never been made to sit through an episode of Sex & the City.