Getting Gully w/ Ras Ceylon, Mandeep Sethi & Humble the Poet

I was hesitant to make the two hour drive from Oakland to Sacramento on a late night after working a full day of campaigning. But when I stepped into Sol Collective in Sacramento and was embraced by a sea of brown faces, mainly Sikh kids from the local UC Davis campus, I knew I was stepping into something special and it was well worth the drive. Mandeep Sethi had put this show on, pulling together a gully line up of South Asian hip hop heads from Los Angeles based Hoodini, to Oakland based Ras Ceylon, to Toronto based Humble the Poet to Bay based Mandeep Sethi himself.

The highlight of the evening was by far when Humble the Poet, Ras Ceylon and Mandeep Sethi took the stage together to spit a song that they had just created that week with a beat produced by Sikh Knowledge. You can peep my live recording of the song Gutter right here, but Ras Ceylon just tweeted at me that the official music video was up. Live and direct, here you go – Gutter.

I’ve written about Humble the Poet and Mandeep Sethi in the past, but who is Ras Ceylon? I connected with him through Sri Lankan friends and when I moved to Oakland a couple months ago, I knew I had to connect. From L.A. to the Bay, Ras Ceylon has been a hip-hop reggae artist representing Oakland for the past ten years. I sat down with Ras Ceylon for a quick Q&A before he headed out to Jamaica on tour. It was a windy day by Lake Merritt in Oakland, so I had to edit the clip just a bit because of the sound – I transcribed some of it though which you can read after the jump.

Taz: Who are you?

Ras Ceylon: This is Ras Ceylon. MC, organizer, educator out here in California of Sri Lankan descent – as you can probably tell by the name. Ras signifies Rastafari the faith and Ceylon the formerly colonized name of Sri Lanka. It’s where my roots and legacy extends from. And I’m out here in California doing the work, liberation first.

T: Why do you make music?

RC: I make music with liberation in mind. So that basically means freedom, you know- mentally, spiritually, politically. Hip hop is a tool and a voice to the oppressed people across the globe, for the past 20 odd years. I grew up with hip hop as a culture. I make hip hop music to smash against the oppression, in any form you find it.

T: What’s it been like to collaborate with folks like Mandeep Sethi and Humble to Poet?

RC: It’s a trip to me though. Coming up with hip hop culture, almost moreso than Sri Lankan being a culture because my mother was always working, so I didn’t really have a whole lot of exposure to my own Sri Lankan and Sinhalese culture. Besides the food, which I love. So hip hop has been a main source of identification and a way to express ourselves. That’s why I like linking with cats like Mandeep. I’ve recently seen other South Asians that are into hip-hop. Growing up I was the only one, the token brown guy in the crowd. It’s a beautiful thing.

T: What was it like to do the show in Sacramento?

RC: That was off the hook. I told the crowd when I was on stage that 10-15 years ago coming into the hip-hop community I never would have thought that we could have a whole entire event with all hip-hop and all South Asian cats on stage rocking. And rocking with skills too. It was really inspirational and it was a great thing to see this new generation is taking it seriously too. And not just taking it for the mainstream aspects of rap music that gets pushed to us by Clear Channel, BET, MTV, and shows materialism and false gangsterism. These cats were actually kicking stuff with a conscious message and to me that’s why hip-hop was created.

T: When did you fall in love with hip-hop?

RC: I remember the day clearly. It was the third grade and 1989 in Southern California. I was chilling and all of a sudden I heard this music coming out of my homies brother’s room. His brother was playing this music and I was tripping. I asked my friend, “What is that?” It turns out it was Public Enemy, “It Takes a Nation of Million to Hold It’s Back.” From that time when I first heard Public Enemy, that really was for me a life-changing experience. I even said it in a rhyme, “…Chuck D. has struck me to think politically.” The first time I heard Public Enemy it really connected with me that you could put a message in the music. For me, that was huge.

T: How does your Sri Lankan background influence your music?

RC: The number one thing was I wanted to make sure early on that when I first started to get serious about making music, that I chose the title “Ceylon”. I took that as my handle primarily so that I would never forget the fact that I am Sri Lankan. Aside from that, just being conscious of the fact that I’m from a war torn area that was created through colonial conditions, and seeing the way things are in the world right now, these are all post colonial struggles that we are having.

T: Can you talk more about “decolonizing the mind state”, a theme that keeps appearing in your lyrics?

RC: It’s all about knowledge of oneself. Decolonization is all about knowing who you really are. It’d be easy for me to say, “I was born and raised in Southern California so I’m a Californian.” But to be real about it, I’m going to have to take it back. My roots come from Sri Lanka. Before they were in Sri Lanka, my ancestors were Dravidian and they came from Ethiopia. Knowing your history is the key.

I feel blessed knowing that conscious Desi hip hop heads like Mandeep and Ras exist, and that they live close enough now that I can build with them on both justice and music. Being a brown Desi teen in America would have been a different experience had I had lyrics and music like theirs to listen to. A rarified pairing, they both have bright futures ahead of them and I’m looking forward to seeing where their intersecting musical paths will take them.

Grab Ras Ceylon’s Scientific Non-Fiction now on iTunes and stay tuned at his myspace to get word on when the Gideon Force collection drops. You can also follow Mandeep Sethi on myspace or bandcamp. And of course, tweet at them both at @RasCeylon and @MandeepSethi.

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About Taz

Taz is an activist, organizer and writer based in California. She is the founder of South Asian American Voting Youth (SAAVY), curates MutinousMindState.tumblr.com and blogs at TazzyStar.blogspot.com. Follow her at twitter.com/tazzystar

15 thoughts on “Getting Gully w/ Ras Ceylon, Mandeep Sethi & Humble the Poet

  1. Nice – these guys are good. I like the “real” subject matter too.

    Know the magnificence of your true history and decolonize – we were the first!

    Love it

  2. The guy with the glasses kinda looks like a rapping mullah :)

    It really is remarkable how widespread the influence of african-american culture is. The hip-hop culture seems to have spread to every corner of the world. The youth of the world clearly find it far more attractive than white american country music, heavy metal etc

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  3. Seriously? I worked way too long on this post and these guys are way too good for this conversation to be derailed on the second comment. Stay on topic (or even remotely close to the topic) or your comment will be deleted.

  4. Very cool! Anything like that happening in/around Davis on Thanksgiving? We’re driving up and it would be fun to go to.

  5. whoaaaaaaaaaaaa—- thanks TAZZY STAR for giving us this!

    solid brown hits– this crew is deep– hope to catch em in CHI or on the east coast!

    keep shining and shining

  6. “…my own Sri Lankan and Sinhalese culture…My roots come from Sri Lanka. Before they were in Sri Lanka, my ancestors were Dravidian and they came from Ethiopia. Knowing your history is the key.”

    err….what? no one else finds this a bit ridiculous? war-torn, but he was born and raised in california. sinhalese, but somehow dravidian. and ethiopia? what? he doesn’t even say ceylon right.

    i’m probably being overly critical, but i think people give a lot of these dudes passes because they seem harmless and they’re doing some interesting/positive things, but man, it’s hard to take this guy seriously after reading that.

  7. “Being a brown Desi teen in America would have been a different experience had I had lyrics and music like theirs to listen to”

    Taz you could have listened to the mighty Asian Dub Foundation… They are the fountainhead for conscious south asians….public enemy meets Rage Against the Machine meets a ton of other awesome shit…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DccDYoJwSQ&feature=related

    • True dat! “Mighty” is the perfect word for the ADF. They played their own instruments in a rock band type of format and were a mixture of different desi types and religions. They also had a fair amount of crossover success (if you measure success by chart position), at least in the UK, with a couple of their tracks.

      I don’t know if anyone remembers Apache Indian as well – another UK artist with a reggae dub type feel. He did a track called “Arranged Marriage”. I would probably not put him at the same level as ADF given their musical talents, though.

  8. more often than not, ‘conscious hip-hop’ gets a pass for its content…i am a underground hip-hop fan, but these guys are just some “fuck the government” types with no real message or context. by all means though, keep hyping them up as some intellectuals with some poignant points to make.

    also, i’d like to note the profound points that black guy at the end was making about his ancestors being forced to come here without acknowledging the leg up it gives his generation.

  9. I think they do have some relevant points to make and they are not just about “screw the government” at all – did you even listen? One of the main thrusts is understanding your history and being proud of where you come from. This is a key message for people who feel disconnected form their roots. Understanding your history and decolonizing is the key to maintaining self-esteem and pride.

    Your comment about the leg up that people have by being shipped over here as slaves is just ridiculous – you really need to sort yourself out, mate.

  10. Seriously I wish some commenters would take heed to the concept of DECOLONIZATION OF THE MIND that these artists are suggesting. If you analyzed the ideas (which are not just “fuck the government” but really challenging the desi status quo) that these guys are saying perhaps you would embrace the connection between South Asia and Africa and understand the historic white washing of that link i.e. Harappa, Mohenjo Daro, and the timing of the Aryan invasion of the subcontinent.

    Also the people pointing out Ras not pronouncing Ceylon “correctly” are doing some because he is not saying it the British/English way but the guy is from California what do you expect?

    Respect Ras and Mandeep, lets hope more of our Desi peoples can begin decolonizing their paradigms as these two have started to do.

    Great post Taz!!!