“Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac.” — Henry Kissinger
Despite their staunch alliance, relations between Pakistan and the USA are … tense. If you were a Pakistani Prime Minister, what could be more natural than … a more personal approach to break the ice, to fill the yawning gap, to closely bring together two former intimates, these two strange bedfellows?
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Aziz “tried this Savile Row-suited gigolo kind of charm: ‘Pakistan is a country of rich traditions,’ staring in (Rice’s) eyes …When Rice sat down with Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz, who fancied himself as a ladies’ man, Aziz puffed himself up and held forth in what he obviously thought was his seductive baritone,” the book says. [Link]
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p>Aziz was not some wide eyed naïf when it came to the ways of the West. He was a former ibanker, a VP at Citibank who had worked in London, Athens and New York. He may have had good reason to consider himself an experienced ladies man, a master of international affairs as it were, but he clearly met his match:
“He bragged — to Western diplomats, no less — that he could conquer any woman in two minutes… There was this test of wills where he was trying to use all his charms on her as a woman, and she just basically stared him down … By the end of the meeting, he was babbling. The Pakistanis were shifting uncomfortably. And his voice visibly changed…” [Link]
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p>He could conquer any woman in two minutes Pakistan’s response to these reports is that it’s all a cross-cultural misunderstanding:
Pakistan’s deputy information minister Tariq Azeem said that Aziz was only being polite. “The prime minister wanted to be nice with Dr. Rice,” Azeem told AFP. “Our tradition is that we should talk to women gently and decently and this was what the prime minister did…” [Link]
Poor Aziz. He completely miscalculated in his approach :
Rice, according to friends and family, had a thing for bad boys… [Link]
Although her name means “with sweetness”, nice guys finish last with Dr. Rice. Manmohan Singh would never have made that kind of rookie mistake, he would have shown Condi why you can’t spell aphrodisiac without desi. This is one part of Nehru’s legacy that we can all embrace.
If he’d only done his homework he would have known that Condi’s heart belongs to another.
She is so ugly ! And not there aren’t hot black chics, there are, she is just not one of them..
what’s her skin colour got to do with it?
I am willing to give the PM a benefit of doubt. Moving on, I have seen far too many distinguished desi playas doing their smooth routine. One word. Cringe. Who the hell falls for that shit?
Sadaiyappan @ 2: Much as I dislike the entire G. Bizzle posse, that was uncalled for.
Way to go … Comment # 2 and we are already dragging a woman’s looks into the discussion
Bah!
Well the post is about him conquering and charming her so I thought her looks were relevant..
But did either of them drink pineapple juice?
Her looks are not relevant because he is presumably trying to charm her to gain political leverage. Not because he actually has the hots for her, fer chrissake!
I think sadaiyappan has a valid point with respect to this situation.
ugly has nothing to do with skin colour
let me rephrase – the ugly part could be valid, but nix the reference to the ethnicity.
Ahem.
Guys, do not go there.
Don’t bring in racial stereotypes (one way or the other). And there’s no point in judging her looks, they’re irrelevant in this circumstance. Please? I don’t want to check the site at some point over the weekend and find a troll convention has broken out.
Why is an article on Aziz being a luckless, oily charmer degenerating into one about Condi’s looks? He tried to get it on with her and she rebuffed him. Surely we should be questioning his looks? Which, going by the pic, aren’t much to write home about.
can we judge his looks? uncle needs to hit the gym ewwww
I wonder what his two minutes skills are.
Maybe there’s a reason he’s known as “Shortcut Aziz”
Or why you can’t spell aphrodisiac with desi either. ;>)
Maybe if Aziz applied some of that boot polish General Musharraf uses in his hair, he make more headway . . .
Since you are judging how she looks, it is only fair you put your picture here so we can judge how you look.
i’m offended by the anti smooth ibanker/ladies man sentiment on this thread. you’d all be down on the farm if it weren’t for our tribe. aziz ain’t the first guy unable to crack the condi nut, but at least he was man enough to step to the plate and go down swinging. clinton only goes after powerless women using borderline sexual harassment techniques.
if i ever see segolene royal, katrina vanden heuvel, or shodan at my local watering hole, i’d give it a shot, unlike clinton, kennedy, ennis, democrats, liberals, and wealth redristriubutionists, who obviously only go for weaker women. sheesh.
I like!
Damn you Manju, I would give it a shot too on the left flank. Specially for Katrina vanden Heuvel. Lotharios of the world unite!
…And in this corner we have two-minute-skills guy. In the opposite corner we have no-fixed-time-for-withdrawal guy. Sisters, which would you choose?
Bow chicka bow wow
**Seriously, can’t you just imagine the soundtrack?
***I always wonder about the veracity of these stories.
****Having a single, attractive (you are allowed to mention looks if you are complimentary – it’s the rules of the internet), fairly youngish female Secretary of state has led to some interesting stories. The media is always having articles about how she has ‘conquered’ this politician or that politician – Bush, Jack Straw, some Canadian dude, even Quaddafi, I think? Was it him? Oh, who can even remember all the stories what with the USWeekly-ification of general news stories. It’s as if the media can’t figure out how to cover a single female in such a powerful position.
*****When Hillary is our new overlord, the stories should be very interesting…..how do we discuss a female president? *****Interesting.
It’s the oily charmer bit that’s cringe worthy. I’ve got no beef w/ money-people. In fact my Pakistani peeps say very good things about Show Cat Aziz. He did much good work as finance minister.
I am flattered Majnu, er, Manju. BTW, I am a guy. But being a degenerate liberal, I fully stand behind (no pun intended) you getting it on w/ other guys.
Oh, too bad the other thread got closed down (razib, prema!). I was gonna respond to the questions posed @ md 🙁
i think jack straw started wearing contacts after meeting condi.
Condi can look quite attractive in some pictures, such as this one. In fact, she may be the prettiest Secretary of State ever. 🙂
It’s her politics that I can’t stand.
Actually her complexion is a shade or two lighter than the stereotypical desi skin tone. Colin Powell the other black Secretary of State OTOH, is practically white by desi standards.
A back-handed compliment that; since her only competition is Madeliene Albright…..
i think ol shortcut used Sex Panther
not sure if it worked,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7015vhthPkQ
o crap. crying game moment.
I wonder if he tried his 2-minute routine when Jolie was in town?
But its ok I’d try my 11-minute routine (Paulo Coelho anyone) on either one of them 😛
prema: you seem a bit pre-occupied with this topic? what’s the story? just curious.
Seriously, what is UP with talking about Condi’s skin color or attractiveness? That’s so typically goddamn brown neurotic.
But ah, I love spring. It’s when SM’s thoughts turn to fornication (secondhand, of course…time to send Condi a gallon of pineapple juice with a note linking to this thread, just so she knows).
Bunkerdudes, maybe a less frothily hormonal post next? I think it’s getting to the audience; they’re starting to dry-hump each other next to the lockers and make out in the hallways. Can we get a chaperone in here? Rajni?
(Maybe it’s a post-trollery-brings-an-onset-of-reproductive-instincts thing, like the Baby Boom after WWII?)
I doubt he plans on joining Condi for one of her daily 4:30 am gym workouts …
There was this news report about how Natwar Singh (Minister for External Affairs at that time) charmed Condi with his..well..charm. It was noted that he made her laugh etc. Can’t remember the source. Someone else here might. This was before that whole Iraq scandal-bag fell on his head.
All it takes is for a woman to show up and all these charmers start their charming. Never mind that she’s your counterpart in an extremely important position. Similar thing when Bush wanted to give Angela Merkel a shoulder rub. Remember?
hahaha
Manju, don’t fight it, embrace that side of you.
Shodan it’s quite a compliment though, eh?
😉
wow. the majority of comments are about looks rather than what’s written. the idea that he would “dare” to brag about his sexual prowress to western aka mostly white diplomats, the face that most (male) politicians still view women (whether in power or not) primarily as sexual objects and the idea that he, as the native brownie that he is, wouldn’t possibly know how to pick up on a western woman with his bkward native ways…those are the things i found interesting. not whether condi is hot or uncle’s gotta hit the gym
Maybe he was able to pick up on a whole host of women but Condi was there for a very specific purpose and was not beat for all that. She’s a focused and powerful woman. What good would a very publicised fling do her or her career?
I believe Rice’s exact words were: Brownie, you’re doin’ a heck of a job.
whats interesting is that no matter where you are in your career it seems a woman can’t do her job without some clown trying to get some play
Who are you kidding? Desis in general are pathologically obsessed with this topic; as can be seen by the posts here including that obnoxious one by sadaiyappan. I respond to such sick, delusional creatures with a reality check. You got a problem with reality checks it seems.
Damn, that cracked me up. Many a desi playboy has been reduced to a babbling buffoon by the harsh realities of the western dating scene…
bidi said:
I wrote:
bidi – doesn’t seem as if your comment is about “what’s written” either. Why not try to make your point fairly instead of misrepresenting my post?
What about that question, “in your country there is free sex, no?” Um, correct. NO. On the contrary, a full night with a prostitute could cost you an arm and a leg.
I guess these sorts think the second they land on American soil a bevy of Pams are lined up outside the airport just dying to throw themselves at them.
And what about the, “in your country there is only sex, but in India there is love”?
Okay.
somehow prema, this statement strikes me as the real answer to my question. kinda like when psychologists hear: “a friend of mine is thinking about sucide.”
Maybe Prema’s onto something?