Who nose the secrets of the stars?

Since we have been talking about California doctors I thought I would share a news item that just came to my attention. Do you knows which desi male is in such high demand in Hollywood for his magic hands? He’s not a yoga instructor or a masseur, instead he’s Dr. Raj Kanodia, surgeon to the stars!

What do Jennifer Aniston, Ashlee Simpson and Cameron Diaz have in common? When Aniston recently underwent rhinoplasty, she turned to Dr. Raj Kanodia, the plastic surgeon behind Simpson’s and Diaz’s new noses. [Link]

Would you trust a bald barber?

Not only is this a major nose job, but (surprisingly) it’s confirmed by Aniston’s own people:

Aniston’s rep confirms the operation. “Jennifer had a procedure done to correct a deviated septum that was incorrectly done over 12 years ago,” [Link]

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p>While the official story is that she hated her original nose job and came to Kanodia for correction, nosy parkers insist that that a broken nose is just balm for a broken heart.

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p>Am I the only one who finds it ironic that all these famous actresses are coming to a desi doctor to get demure little noses? I imagine him doing these operations with an cartoon angel on one shoulder and a cartoon devil on the other. The angel tells him to just do what the client wants, and the devil tells him to go ahead and do what he really wants – to give these women beautiful, majestic desi schnozzes instead. The poor doctor’s hands twitch, caught by conflicting impulses, until he leaves the room crying and his associates finish the surgery instead.

More on Kanodia: Champa And Tulsi Go to Hollywood

Our earlier post on him: Of Course…A Desi Doc on Dr. 90210

93 thoughts on “Who nose the secrets of the stars?

  1. re Bangus and sharp features: My choto nani (and everyone else, actually) made fun of my bocha naak and irregular-shaped head (think Zahara Jolie-Pitt) throughout my years in Bangladesh. I was also victim to mustard oil restructuring massages. Fond memories… I’ve since grown into the head, but the naak is still less than ideal. Who’s got Kamodia’s number?

    Also, I feel like I’ve heard the term “khara” to describe a ‘sharp’ naak…

  2. filmiholic,

    as per your response (#32) to my comment, indeed, i highlighted my hair last spring, then cut it uber short, and (since i am doing interviews) have since grown it out and dyed it back to its “natural” hue in order to please conservative admissions committees. i never highlighted or colored before that, but hell, i OWN my hair color, especially seeing as how my hard earned (workstudy/labrat) money went into it for it to look (good) that way. not to mention that i enjoyed the compliments i received both before, after, and post-after. who cares if one aunty from back home thought i should have kept it “natural,” all the other aunties asked me who my colorist was, lol.

    maybe my brevity was misunderstood; if you went back to work and someone asked you if your narrower nose and more delicate nostrils were your own (despite knowing they weren’t), i don’t think you can really use it as a comeback to say, “well i paid for the changes with my own money, so, yeah! it’s mine.” what i meant was, if you are healthy–mentally, physically, emotionally, etc.–and you take care of your body, and would feel a nose job would improve some aspect of your life (for yourself) that cannot be done “naturally,” then maybe if you have the maturity and the disposable income, you can get a more pleasing honker. as long as it still produces mucus, exchanges gases, and maintains olfactory sensation (not to mention your sense of orientation), it’s still your nose. not that ALL plastic surgery involves nose/boob jobs. how about laser hair removal, lasik eye surgery, botox, calf implants, hair implants (women and men both can have alopecia), etc? you get the pic i bet. hope that clears up my stance, as i don’t intend to say plastic surgery is a constitutional right, but an option for people who want to look good for themselves and not others. also, i hope that answers your query into my wording in your comment(#33) as well kusala.

    and no’s, vedic history is not the same as the vedas. the vedas also come in thousands of volumes–have you read all of them? if you want to get down and dirty, there is art historical evidence that hinduism began as a female-deity-centric religion; script did not develop until the vedas were written, mostly primitive symbols were used as on the seals found at harrappa and mohenjodaro. so how do you know lakshmi or the concept of her never existed before that? additionally, according to the bhagavad gita, goddess lakshmi comes in many forms so i wonder if you could find which form “they-who-wrote-the-vedas” were referencing in those scriptures. get at me when you figure it out, thanks.

    my main point, which i felt was missed and the rest of my comment over-scrutinized (chill people!), was that european conceptions of beauty have created significant changes in many cultures’ perceptions of beauty. i.e.–lisa malkki’s work on the racial tensions between the hutus and tutsis in rwanda serves as an excellent example of how british notions of the narrow nose and height played into racism which later fueled the unfortunate genocides. not that rhinoplasties should cause genocides, but again, just an example of how it is possible that western influence on Indian notions of beauty has affected how we talk about our schnozzes or that our ajjis (grandmothers) massage them into preferable shapes with coconut oil before baths.

  3. What about the desi fillum actresses, they get nose jobs a lot too – Sridevi’s was pretty obvious. And Madhuri’s boob job was much talked-about at the time. North Indians have a real thang about “sharp” noses.

  4. vedic history is not the same as the vedas

    Silly point. In Vedic times Vedic gods were worshipped. Lakshmi is not a vedic goddess. She is mentioned in the Puranas not the Vedas.

    the vedas also come in thousands of volumes

    Please read up on the Vedas before talking nonsense.

    how do you know lakshmi or the concept of her never existed before that

    So you think Lakshmi was a Dravidian goddess? Doesn’t change the fact that there is no mention of Lakshmi in the Vedas.

    the racial tensions between the hutus and tutsis in rwanda serves as an excellent example of how british notions of the narrow nose and height played into racism which later fueled the unfortunate genocides

    Aryans/Dravidians in India, Hutus/Tutsis in Africa. Same white mischief in different dark continents.

  5. even though the vedic texts mention goddesses with flawless white skin,

    You are writing a lot of baloney aditi. The Vedas mentions no such thing.

    Hindu goddesses and gods tend to be black/dark as described in the Puranas.

  6. sigh SM intern, i don’t know if you’re out there…but please help out…

    moving on…

    SP, i heard that preity zinta had her dimples surgically, err, umm…formed. but i think it is most fascinating how much smaller shilpa shetty’s nose has become. and also i think rekha has plastic surgery as well.

    bollywood actresses have such shape-shifting lives :P

  7. Oh, ironically enough he’s kind of conventional in that lantern-jawed kinda way, but hey. I’m happy to go along with that. (GAY GAY GAY!)

  8. Most Bollywood actresses have had some kind of work done. Case in point, look at Aishwaryia Rai and Sushmita Sem. When they won their titles, both were flat chested and thin-lipped. Now, both have C cups suddenly?! Shilpa Shetty, Sridevi, Rehka have had a ton of work done. Rekha looks so scary now. I think a lot of them have had lipo done too – specifically Preity Zinta.

  9. TO CHUTNEY GIRL::::

    “Most Bollywood actresses have had some kind of work done. Case in point, look at Aishwaryia Rai and Sushmita Sem. When they won their titles, both were flat chested and thin-lipped. Now, both have C cups suddenly?! Shilpa Shetty, Sridevi, Rehka have had a ton of work done. Rekha looks so scary now. I think a lot of them have had lipo done too – specifically Preity Zinta. “

    HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE DONE OR HAVENT??? DO YOU HAVE SOME SPECIAL ACCESS TO THEIR MEDICAL RECORDS?? Aish has repeatedly said that she NEVER had plastic surgery. I have looked at her old beauty pageant pictures and she looks the same EXCEPT she has gained at least 15 pounds. Do you realize that woman gain weight in their breasts when they gain weight overall? It depends on body shape. You CLAIM that these stars have “TON OF WORK DONE” but where is your proof?? Did they mention on some interview?? I dont understand where you come with this declarative sentance of assertion of what has been done. You dont know shit about what any of the stars have or havent done. I personally know what the results of LIPO is and I can tell you that Preity looks more like she did this thing called EXCERCISE to lose that fat. The results of lipo are pointless without a workout regime. Either way, you have no proof of what she has done and it is none of your business.

    I hate how women point out the “plastic surgery” celebrities have done yet have no proof of it most of the time. People kept saying how supermodel Tyra Banks “had her boobs done” because she was smaller chested when she was modeling at 18 years old. Well, tyra banks went on her TV show and had a plastic surgeon check and see if she had implants. THe results , on national TV, showed that her big breasts were REAL. SO you guys can shut up about “WHAT YOU KNOW”.

    Assumptions are just that: ASSUMPTIONS.

  10. I think women like Chutney are very insecure about their own looks so they feel they are justified in pointing out the “flaws” or “work done” in other women. I believe women who talk about other womens’ looks feel that women cannot naturally look that beautiful and that they will never attain that level of beauty. So, they resort to saying that “they are fake” to make them feel better about themselves.

    I know women like Chutney who, when someone calls another woman beautiful, will respond with , ” O, she must have had her boobs done and had her face done ” cause it is not naturally possible to be beautiful unless you had plastic surgery right? riiiiiiiiight.

    Ive seen BABY PICTURES OF AISHWARYIA and believe me, she had full lips. GOOGLE HER MISS WORLD PICTURES. SHe had full lips. Secondly, PEOPLE DO NOT LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME IN EVERY DAMN PICTURE. I took a picture a month ago and then compared that picture with the picture I took a week ago and I look completely different: if you looked at the picture CHUTNEY GIRL WOULD SAY that I had my lips done, my skin rejuvenated, and my eyebrows lifted…………What really has happened within that time period is that I used different makeup/lipstick products, I plucked my eyebrows slightly differently, and I washed my face minutes before I took the picture. That made a huge difference in the results of the picture I took a month ago and what I took recently. Apparently, Chutney girl thinks women must look IDENTICAL in every picture or movie scene or else we are fake.

    CHUTNEY GIRL, you and I do not know what plastic surgeries ANYBODY has had or didnt have unless they came out and told us so. If not, why do people like you have to mention it when anybody talks about their beauty? Even if they did have plastic surgery, does it mean they are ugly???? Ive seen average looking indian girls get plastic surgery and they STILL LOOK AVERAGE. It didnt make them stunning and no amount of plastic surgery can change you into a beauty far from your original looks. That is a statement many plastic surgeons will tell you.

    YOU NEED TO APPRECIATE OTHER WOMENS’s beauty and quit your hateration.

  11. “the sharp schnoz fetish that all desis share might have a lil’ sumfin sumfin to do with european influence on notions of beauty. even though the vedic texts mention goddesses with flawless white skin, it seems that goddesses like Lakshmi only gained prominence in Vedic history after significant merchant exchange with Greeks (hence all those notions of classic Greecian beauty being adopted by our fairly flexible peoples) via the Silk Route.”

    It probably came from the middle east. They did rule much of India for centuries, and their ideals probably heavily influenced India’s ideals. Probably not much to do with the European influence though, since the large aquiline noses that are prized in south asia don’t seem to have the same appeal in the Anglo-Saxon world.. maybe other parts of europe though, since another name for ‘hook-nose’ is ‘Roman nose’..

  12. People kept saying how supermodel Tyra Banks “had her boobs done” because she was smaller chested when she was modeling at 18 years old. Well, tyra banks went on her TV show and had a plastic surgeon check and see if she had implants. THe results , on national TV, showed that her big breasts were REAL.

    And people say science does not have all the answers.

  13. What furrows me about plastic surgery is that its usually women who have strong opinions about it. Yeah, my guys friends say they prefer natural boobies but, continue the conversation for a moment longer, and you realize they mean ‘natural’ in more a existential sense, in that… it exists. And this makes sense, because its women that are held ideals and men are coveted for cavemanness (by me, at least)… until recent metro trends. I’d bet the frequency of male plastic surgery is highly and positively correlated with the the recent objectification of men (yum).

    Anyway, I wonder if the real issue here is, very simply, that it’s hard to be a woman. Ideally, we wouldn’t judge another for the way she finds happiness and peace. The fact is, however, that our actions have wider effects. Every girl who decides she’d be happier with bigger tits, leaner thighs, longer nose raises the stakes for those who were once ok with our b-cups, thunder thighs, and botcha naak. For every woman who resigns after milking maternity leave, the rest of the female workplace is rendered suspect. Really, it just sucks to be a woman. The (man’s) world pits us against one another.

    On the otherhand, our cloathes are much cooler. And we get to play with eyeshadow. Ladies, drop the beef, lets go bond over retail therapy and dark chololate.

  14. For every woman who resigns after milking maternity leave, the rest of the female workplace is rendered suspect. Really, it just sucks to be a woman.

    Women certainly are much more tougher on eachother. In my superficial business the men (the straight ones) wouldn’t notice that you were having a fat day or that your panty lines are showing or you are stressing about the first fine lines under your eyes but women, women are brutal. They will notice all kinds of shit. For years the most random women in bathrooms and other odd places would ask me if my breasts were real, or they’d have conversations about them in front of me with each other like they were a piece of furniture to be scrutinized. I’m not even skinny for them to look fake. Interestingly now that I’m significantly smaller I still get that question and nearly 100% of the time from smaller chested women. It really is women that women dress for and fuss for because I swear I don’t know a single guy no matter how superficial that would notice the ridiculous things women do to themselves because they think it makes them attractive.

    And I say this as a complete hypocrite because I’ve sold out myself.

  15. How have you sold out!?!? Really, what we inflict upon ourselves is often far worse than anything that comes from the outside.

    From my superb reading-between-the-lines ability, I can tell that you’re incredibly aware of yourself and your surroundings, that you confront the day with confidence, kindness, and a clear head. What else matters?

    We all make decisions and sacrifices. It’s sad when you wake up one day and realize you’re not the person you thought you wanted to be. And it’s scarey if you’re ok with it. But this is life.

    Clearly, I’ve done some rationalizing… now, if I can get to the paper-writing….

  16. Hahahah expressa you are kind. I’m comfortable with myself even with the most superficial side of me. Irrespective of how much we might alter the outside so the rest of the world sees different at the end of the day we have to still live with ourselves, who we are on the inside. My general support of the plastic in life is that I know of so many women who it does wonders for in terms of confidence and getting what they want and I do believe that in the end that’s what matters. If a woman is making more money because she has fake breasts so be it. More power to her. The minute I put make up on my face I lose the right to criticize what someone else is doing to her body in my books.

  17. Someone has blamed the Rwandian genocide on people killing other blacks for not having thin noses like the Brit colonials. Those damn Brits again. Sarah Silverman is wrong. Jesus isn't magic. The Brits are. 
    The cosmetic influence of Euros is laughably overrated because people don't want to take responsibility for their own prejudices.  Some Indian villagers were asked in the 1950s what they thought of the Brits being gone. They didn't know the Brits had ever been in India.
    

    Actually French and Belgians, not the British, were the colonists of the land inhabited by Hutus and Tutsis. The Tutsis are usually considered of Nilotic or Ethiopic origin. To what extent the Belgians used such features to determine their African middlemen, I don’t know. They probably played on social distinctions that were already there–they didn’t need to invent them and didn’t have time for that anyway. The Tutsis had a pastoral culture that westerners could relate to, as it had characteristics of familiar “middle eastern” or Arab cultures.

    Race or ethnicity in northern East Africa is determined more by features than by skin color. The Ethiopian icons, over a 1000 years old, show people with pale brown or parchment colored faces and features not much different than the icons found among Christians in Iraq. However, the Ethiopians and Sudanese do have an old bias in favor of thinner features and relatively lighter skin, and a tendency to consider such people “Arabs.” To an outsider, they all look “black.” Among themselves, they are aware, to wit: Darfur.
    Euros were referred to as “bacon” (reddening in the sun) by Africans; “shrimp” by Indonesians who couldn’t imagine why anyone would sun themselves. And yet their images were so powerful that they drove the natives to genocide of any who don’t measure up to these strange looking invaders? I doubt Euro looks were coveted by black or brown people–too different, and often not appropo for the tropical climates where most very dark people have always lived. .

    It's pretty plain to me that all people everywhere appear to be capable of ethnic rivalry and hatred signified by a perceived difference in physical appearance. 
    
  18. Moving on to the really important stuff while y’all debate social and genetic preferences for certain body types and facial features – Sushmita Sen definitely bought her boobs, rumour in Bombay was that she did it when she went to live in California for a year or two; Madhuri Dixit, ditto. Not sure about Preity Zinta’s dimples, she always had those, as I remember. But does anyone remember Shahrukh Khan’s schnoz in the Fauji days (I saw him in person circa 1992 and he was nothing to look at) and does anyone have the dirt on his nose job?

  19. SRK nose was pretty wide and hawklike in the past, and it is same now. I don’t think he got a rhinoplasty. Saif Ali Khan had a very potruding beak like nose. He seems to have the beak shaved off a bit.

  20. TO SAKSHI::

    “And people say science does not have all the answers.”

    What kind of idiotic answer was that? How does that apply to the Trya banks statement? Science cannot tell you if you have implants in your breasts or not?? Were you trying to be philosophical with that statement? I bet you think that science cannot tell you if you are pregnant or not. lol. Some people that post on here are apparently undereducated. I don’t see where the correlation between my statement about Tyra Banks and “science does not have all the answers” relates. Did I mention the universe and how it is made??No. Did I mention god and if he exists? NO.I mentioned freakin’ implants that science and medical professionals are able to detect in the chest region.

    I hate to be rude, but you Ma’am are a moron.

  21. the Ethiopians and Sudanese do have an old bias in favor of thinner features and relatively lighter skin, and a tendency to consider such people “Arabs.” To an outsider, they all look “black.” Among themselves, they are aware, to wit: Darfur.

    Exact same thing in India; just replace “arabs” with “persians”, and the nilotic/hamitic or Tutsi/Hutu divide of Africa with aryan/dravidian in India. To an outsider all indians look more or less the same regardless of caste or state, unless they are upto the colonial white mischief of divide and conquer.

  22. I hate to be rude, but you Ma’am are a moron.

    Chill out, please. And no, I haven’t read the thread, so if anyone else is resorting to personal insults, this is directed to all of you not just the person just excerpted. Commenters personally abusing other commenters here is not permitted and results in being removed from the conversation. So please keep the disagreements and debates respectful, aiight?

  23. MangoPickle I think you are being incredibly rude to anyone with a differing POV on this thread. There is some insane unjustified hateration coming from you towards anyone not even remotely addressing you. There is zero need to call anyone a moron especially when the person wasn’t addressing you or for that matter said anything remotely worth the ire coming from you. Please chill!

  24. All you people saying that outsiders can’t detect the physical differences that people harp on about in India…I’m not sure that’s entirely true. I think they can tell SOME of the differences (when they’re obvious). As for Ethiopians, anyone who thinks they look ‘black’ in the way that western Africans do, isn’t paying attention.

  25. For a good nose structure, i was told that a sure fire technique is to work the nose from inside.You know, shape it the way you want it… :)

  26. Janeoofalltrades:

         You said: "MangoPickle I think you are being incredibly rude to anyone with a differing POV on this thread. There is some insane unjustified hateration coming from you towards anyone not even remotely addressing you. There is zero need to call anyone a moron especially when the person wasn't addressing you or for that matter said anything remotely worth the ire coming from you. Please chill"
    

    Tell me how I was any MORE RUDE than the person I addressed????????????? Hateration coming from me because IM DEFENDING BOLLYWOOD WOMEN WHO NOBODY KNOWS IF THEY HAD PLASTIC SURGERY OR NOT??????? I THINK I WAS ADDRESSING THE HATERATION, NOT FORMING IT. People on here are so full of the hateration when it comes to women more beautifual than them. THey will sit around and say, “o she must have gotten her lips done, or she must have lightened her skin” all because differenet photographs look different. Its called different settings, different lighting, different makeup , different weight, and different styles that are the real reason why PEOPLE DONT LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME IN EVRY PICTURE. When the individual attacked women who DO CHOOSE TO GET PLASTIC SURGERY, SHE WAS ATTACKING ANYONE WHO DOES DO PLASTIC SURGERY AND THAT WOULD BE ME. Ive had it and Im sick of ugly or plain looking indian women telling women like me that “Im fake” when Im not fake. Im real, I just had a modification. SO for your information, whoever it is that I responded to was addressing me.

         SM INTERN WROTE : "I hate to be rude, but you Ma'am are a moron.
         Chill out, please. And no, I haven't read the thread, so if anyone else is resorting to personal insults, this is directed to all      ofyou not just the person just excerpted. Commenters personally abusing other commenters here is not permitted and results in being removed  from the conversation. So please keep the disagreements and debates respectful, aiight?"
    

    Secondly, I was BEING ATTACKED with a response that basically tried to undermine my argument as “unworthy” because “science cannot find the answer to everything” response from someone. I think I have a right to address them, and I was simply quoting Richard Dawkin when I said, “I hate to be rude, but you ma’am are a moron when he addressed a religious woman on TV once. I wrongly assumed that you guys saw the infamous moment a few years ago when he responded to a woman that said science cannot tell you have the world works.

    DEFINE “PERSONALLY ABUSING” because I think it would mean degrading someone to something below than what they present themselves to be. That is what is wrong with the world today. We cannot tell people what they really appear to be so they continue to act the way they do. We cannot tell the priest who thinks that people who believe in evolution are satan worshippers, that the priest is an idiot with no logical basis for his assertion. I , in no way, meant to do anything other than inform the person WHAT I PERCEIVED THEM TO ACT AS. Should I lie ??????

    I dont understand why I cannot “BE RUDE” as janeo so kindly put it , BUT OTHERS ARE ALLOWED TO DEGRADE celebrities AND THE PEOPLE THE TOPIC IS ON??????????? THe pot is trying to call the kettle black. Im tired of people saying they have the right to make comments that undermine their character or beauty by hinting at their “So-called Flaws” but will not tolerate anyone addressing them on the same superficial level. Women complain about how ugly light skinned indian women are yet will not tolerate anyone calling their dark skin ugly. TO them , that is racism. Bullshit is what it sounds like to me.

    I tell you the truth: If a woman told me (or talked behind my back) that I was ugly or had a big nose or only became attractive because I did plastic surgery, I would consider it JUST AS DEGRADING AS SOMEONE CALLING ME A motherfucker, moron, dumbass, bastard, etc. BOTH ARE DEMEANING AND EFFECT A PERSON”S WORTH.

    SO how about all of the commenters stop talking trash about “WHAT THEY KNOW AS A FACT” a celebrity got done when they dont know anything about their medical records. STAY ON TOPIC AND I WILL TOO.

  27. Secondly, I was BEING ATTACKED with a response that basically tried to undermine my argument as “unworthy” because “science cannot find the answer to everything” response from someone. I think I have a right to address them, and I was simply quoting Richard Dawkin when I said, “I hate to be rude, but you ma’am are a moron when he addressed a religious woman on TV once. I wrongly assumed that you guys saw the infamous moment a few years ago when he responded to a woman that said science cannot tell you have the world works.

    MangoPickle, I was not trying to undermine your argument. I was just trying my hand at dry irony. Guess it didn’t work too well-I’ll throw in a smiley at the end, the next time.

  28. All you people saying that outsiders can’t detect the physical differences that people harp on about in India…I’m not sure that’s entirely true. I think they can tell SOME of the differences (when they’re obvious)

    You noticing “some” of the differences among indians is equivalent to the Rwandan hutus and tutsis seeing each other as different. These are marginal differences within the race. No outsider will mistake an average ethiopian or sudanese for an arab or an average punjabi, much less a bengali or tamil brahmin, for a persian. As a group desis stand apart from africans, europeans, east asians, west asians, central asians etc., regardless of caste and region. As for the divisive nonsense perpetuated by the debunked Aryan Invasion Theory equating skin color with caste, which continues to be perpetuated by so many servile, mentally-colonised desis (including many posters right here), it needs to be ridiculed at every step. Firstly, it is an insult to hinduism to claim that its caste system was based on something as superficial and non-spiritual as skin color; and secondly, simple observation of the ground reality exposes the whole thesis as a canard. Jatt sudras for example are lighter on average than brahmins from any part of India. To an outsider indians of all caste look racially the same. This point was also made by Francois Gautier a french convert to hinduism:

    http://in.rediff.com/news/2006/jul/03franc.htm

    “First, I would like to say that after so many years in India, particularly in the cities, I am still not able to see the difference between a Dalit and a Brahmin, except if I see a Brahmin wearing a sacred thread and a Dalit in a loincloth, which is never the case in cities.”

  29. BTW, harping on such marginal intra-racial differences can lead to horrific consequences as seen in the massacre of Tutsis by Hutus in Rwanda, the racial genocides of WW II in Europe, the massacre of bengalis by pakistani punjabis in 1971 etc.

  30. I tell you the truth: If a woman told me (or talked behind my back) that I was ugly or had a big nose or only became attractive because I did plastic surgery, I would consider it JUST AS DEGRADING AS SOMEONE CALLING ME A motherfucker, moron, dumbass, bastard, etc. BOTH ARE DEMEANING AND EFFECT A PERSON”S WORTH.

    Um, yeah, if you place your worth on your looks.

    .

    MangoPickle, you don’t need plastic surgery, you need love and lithium.

  31. “Jatt sudras for example are lighter on average than brahmins from any part of India.”

    On average I’m sure punjabi and kashmiri brahmins on average are lighter than jatt ‘shudras’…

  32. Right on, Shruti. Seriously, MangoPickle, take a chill pill. I hadn’t checked in all weekend, but I’m sorry my previous comment got you so worked up (though mine weren’t the only ones).

    Let’s agree to disagree on the relative merits of plastic surgery. I still just don’t get it, but I never said my opinion was gonna make people stop getting nipped and tucked, nor am I suggesting outlawing it. And yes, I live on THIS planet. And YES, I understand firsthand what it’s like not to live up to the “standard” of attractiveness that’s foisted upon us (men AND women) from outside.

  33. I’d get lipo, maybe. And lazer hair removal, full body! Maybe even botox. But not a boob job, nose job, new chin, etc. Erasing little flaws feels very different to me from incorporating something foreign — a whole different monster! I get grossed out sometimes thinking about the metal rod shoved through my navel. ick!

  34. I HOPE TO GET A BOOB JOB because the new and advanced silicone implants feel and look beautiful even though I already have natural D cups.

    Mango Pickle;

    You have natural D cups and you plan on getting a boob job? Are you going smaller? If not, I’m just wondering out of curiousity which size you want to be, if you want to be bigger.

    Plastic surgery is a personal choice so I respect the freedom a person has to choose to have or not have it done.

  35. to doordarshan…

    seems to me you have a chip on your shoulder. I am from Delhi & live in Europe ….I am constantly asked if I am really Indian & how come my skin is so light….they totally see the differnce between the typical north indian & south…I am saying typical cause of course there are exceptions.

    Walk on the streets of delhi & chennai…& tell me you see the same people…and not just Indians..anyone with eyes can see the difference. Its not a bad thing …just different ..accept it.

  36. hello all the bottom line is the lighter the skin, the more appealing it is for movie makers and movie watchers. the more makeup and cosmetic surgery you can get done to survive the fimi world, the better it is for you $$$$$$-wise. look at indian/hindi movies from 80′s or 90′s and look at the ones these days, don’t you see a stark difference in complexion and makeup of females especially? look at the matrimonial ads – fair, wheatish complexion………….need i say more. fair and lovely is popular from age 8 to 80. look at aishwary rai and her makeup…. rekha, shilpa shetty, priety zinta, vidya balan, with their cosmetic surgeries and boat loads of make-up.

  37. Ok guys, most of us have been teased for something or the other. Whether it be nose or whatever. I have a wide nose and have been reminded of this also, not in a rude way but in a jovial way some times. But the reality is that no one is perfect! All those people who teased you, do you think they had everything perfect?? No! They were insecure about something too and they took it out on you! And when you meet someone, do you just keep concentrating on someone’s nose? No, you see the overall personality. I have a wide nose but that didn’t stop me from being confident and meeting people! I have seen so many “conventionally” good looking people married to conventionally not so good looking people. What ultimately matters is the heart, not some plastic outer beauty!

  38. “Am I the only one who finds it ironic that all these famous actresses are coming to a desi doctor to get demure little noses? I imagine him doing these operations with an cartoon angel on one shoulder and a cartoon devil on the other. The angel tells him to just do what the client wants, and the devil tells him to go ahead and do what he really wants – to give these women beautiful, majestic desi schnozzes instead. The poor doctor’s hands twitch, caught by conflicting impulses, until he leaves the room crying and his associates finish the surgery instead. “

    Yes, you are the only one. Unless by “desi” you mean Pakistani. Indians (and Bangladeshis) do have “demure little noses” (even if slightly broader) on average. Indians usually have much smaller and slightly broader noses than white peoples’ on average, who themselves don’t have that large of a nose. But Pakistanis get lucked out of the deal, most of them seem to have the “Pathan naak (nose; SRK style),” unfortunately.