Let it go down in The Historical Archives of the Mutinous that I have officially posted way too many Paris Hilton references in this Mutiny-Wallah stint for my own good. But, gosh darn it, she makes it so easy!
The 25-year-old heiress to the Hilton hotel fortune will shoot for her friend, Anand Jon, an American fashion designer of Indian descent who is introducing a line of high-end evening wear for India’s stylish elite.“For her, India is the land of exotica and beauty. In fact, her response was: ‘I finally get to visit the exotic’. She loves Indian culture and the Indian influence on clothes,” he said. [link]
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p>Ugh. She used the ‘E’ word. Ironically, as I had posted earlier, even though we’ll be able to see her model clothes for India’s stylish elite, they still cannot watch her music video on TV….
In August, Indian censors issued an “Adult” certification — which means it cannot be broadcast on any TV channel — for the blonde socialite’s new music video “Stars Are Blind.”.jpg)
Although she hasn’t visited the country before, Hilton is well known in trendy Indian social circles and CD copies of a notorious sex romp involving her and an ex-flame can be bought locally for as little as $2. [link]
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p>Who is this desi man that runs in Hilton’s party circuit? First and foremost, he’s a blogger. Anand Jon is also a famous ‘American fashion designer of Indian descent,’ though a quick glance through his Spring 2007 collection didn’t exactly blow my LA-fashionista-mind. Maybe if Paris Hilton’s wearing it, or one of ‘India’s stylish elite,’ it would be more appealing…? Frankly, I find the gratuitous use of the word ‘exotic’ in describing his fashion as well as without seeing a brown skinned woman wearing his gear on his catwalk a little irksome.
Mr. Jon developed a passion for metals and fabrics growing up in South India, under the tutelage of master artisans and his grandmother, one of the most influential women in his life. During these formative years, his deep involvement in the Yogic disciplines set a metaphysical yet playful flavor to all of his creations. Anand Jon often pays homage to his heritage, while also embracing the cosmopolitan vibe of New York City and the raging progress of modern technology.
We can be sure that of one thing- that with Brangelina in India this year, and Paris Hilton going to Mumbai next year, that the Indian paparazzi are hitting jackpot on the tabloid photo front. I wonder if all this means Paris Hilton post-India will get inspired to add ‘exotic Hindu beats’ on her next album release… I can hardly wait.
Wait, Paris earned it? How? The video?
Re: exotic.
Exotic definitely implies “otherness.” To some, exotic also means erotic, because it seems to go hand in hand with the truism, you can only love that which you do not fully understand, and exotic has undertones of the mysterious as well as the sublime. It also implies a lack of deeper understanding of the object in question, or maybe worse, an unwillingness to understand that which you consider exotic. Many people who pursue the exotic are frequently disappointed when they attain it.
You don’t know that. You just know that she doesn’t keep them after or get caught, right?
I’m with Salil. I mean that was complete and total IP theft – she didn’t earn a dime off of her masterful performance. I’m still outraged about that ….
Desi Exotica
http://www.coolbuddy.com/wallpapers/indceleb/john11.htm
………oh yeah.
She’s a fashionista, brings in dough for any designer she wears, a socialite and rich and makes for “news” all the time. I don’t care for her but yeah in terms of “celebrity” she’s earned it. Who the heck is Anand Jon? Now please for christs sake (and he isn’t even my god) lets not get into the semantics of what a “celebrity” is.
Has anyone here seen that one night in paris video?
I can’t imagine her being sexy, exotic, erotic at all. She’s un-attractive on all levels – physically, mentally, verbally… or is that all just an act?
Which would make her even cooler! =)
JOAT: sandy dalal.. oh… you bring back old memories.. heck he was hot ;).. dunno where he is now… i guess all these designers are very ephemeral..
and rani… yucky voice…not attractive…
aish vs. angelina…
aish is gorgeous…angelina has more ‘sex’ appeal.. team aniston vs team jolie is another matter.. i heard through the hollywood grapevine that be, that they were having trouble in their marriage pre mr & mrs smith days..
Dude,
Just cuz you think it’s cool to be white and called exotic in India doesn’t mean it’s cool to come on a desi blog and objectify desi men by labeling the men as ‘desi exotica.
There’s a difference between “expressing your opinion” and being aware and respectful of the opnions of your peers, which have been made apparant throughout the 60 comment thread.
Anyone else perturbed? Or is it just me?
To women perhaps, but you are not part of the demographics she appeals to, men love her, women love to hate her…whatever it is….she’s always in the news. She’s skinny, her skin and hair is always perfect and she wears all the latest designs well. Who cares what she has to say?
What? Someone said Rani Mukherjee was “chubby”?
See what those anorexic euro models have done to the Indian mindset?
The woman is curvaceous.
And in that movie Hey Ram she was not wearing much makeup coz she was playing a traditional Bengali Bou. And she still looked good. Her face is not as stiffly and pristinely pretty as Aiswarya’s, but she has sex appeal over her heaps and bounds.
She’s what we would call “cute and sexy”, while Aiswarya is pretty and boring.
Probably just you and a few other women.
I’ve never heard men object to being thought of as “exotic”.
Especially if they know it means “sexy” to the woman calling them that.
i’m no paris lover, but i completely agree with janeofalltrades. anyone who can get that much publicity and fame with what little talent she has… she’s earned her dubious celebrity status.
Her hair and makeup are often tacky looking, as well as her fashion style.
Her features are un-attractive and she has no curves. None of the men I know find her attractive at all.
maybe this whole usage of the word “exotic” discussion isn’t about the word’s actual meaning, but what people think it means. are most people that use it thinking it means sexy? in the context of what was said re: paris and anand jon, it seems like they were defining exotic with the historical connotations that make the word controversial. but i’m talking about when someone calls someone else exotic. do they mean sexy? do they think the words are interchangable? maybe the questions here is not whether or not use of the term is offensive, but that the word needs to be properly defined in society.
Relax, PG. Rani Mukerjee looks sexy to you and kudos to that.
To me, she really isn’t all that.
Look what those anorexic euro models have done to Rani Mukherjee. She has lost a lot of weight in KANK. I guess Rani felt she needed to loose some weight too.
I agree. Paris looks manly when compared to her sister. Her sister has far better fashion sense and is easy on the eyes.
Paris on the other hand looks like an indian version on Hijra.
paris is like a mosquito.. a pest.. stinging everything she gets hold of…and glorifies her ‘celebritydom’.. hell anyone can become a celebrity these days…her fame too will pass… i’m surprised it hasn’t already.. but the clock is ticking….
http://www.coolbuddy.com/wallpapers/indceleb/john06.htm
http://www.coolbuddy.com/wallpapers/indceleb/john01.htm
How come I never meet guys who look like this?
Bahout durbhagya hoon. Kya karoon yaar?
Aish is a home breaker afterall. From http://www.thesaturdaypost.com/gossip.htm
I always thought John Abraham’s nose looked kind of weird though, like he had a nose job or something, coz it doesn’t really suit his facial structure.
He’s still father f***ing hot in any case.
Amir Khan also scores high on the sex appeal-ometer.
Shah Rukh Khan is cute, but too geeky acting to be considered sexy, in my opinion.
I’d still sleep with him though.
It’s rumored in India that he’s bisexual.
Actually I take that back. I would only sleep with SRK if he was single, which he isn’t.
Oh no! There’s a man obsessed with Aishwarya?? How dare she be beautiful!
(Oops, I think I just did some troll feeding)
Pardesi Gori, I go back and forth between grudgingly acknowledging your knowledge about India to at times loathing what you say, but I have to ask…can you speak fluent Hindi? With an authentic desi accent? And I mean FLUENT, not just half-ass. Because, in the words of Paris Hilton herself, that would be HOT.
PG – is this you?
I heard from a reliable source that he is gay. Ask no more 😉
Really? So who is his partner? Anyone aam junta would know?
Sonia;
ewwwww… those girls are tacky looking. I don’t dress tacky, at least I don’t think so.
Amitabh, my hindi is suffering right now due to being away from India and hindi speakers for over a year. But when I was speaking it regularly, the hindi wallas said my accent was “cent per cent” like theirs. Mind you, I don’t speak with a Delhi walla accent. Mine is like UP street talk.
Well, now I’m working for an Indian hindi walla and he is again re-freshing my hindi abilities. I’ve always got him in stitches doing my UP saas/bahu routine. And the dulhan on her suhaag raat.
Gay? He has a wife and kid. So that would make him bisexual, right? Maybe not.
Why, Karan Johar of course!
Karan Johar is openly gay?
Rani Mukherjee,
YOU dear, are my beautiful Dona Isabel Cobos de Porcel. Yes, you heard me right. Francisco Goya’s masterpiece embodies your spirit, look, grace, and curves. Particularly the curves. Dames of that era were considered prized beauties for their scrumptious healthy bodies.
Can you really blame them? The consequences of not having that extra ‘oomph’ when it came to fighting infectious disease were dire (WHICH was the number one killer till about a 100 years ago, now its old people illnesses like heart disease and cancer. How lame). So, anyway, as I understand a healthy looking woman [AKA excess lipid reserves] was looked upon as a desirable characteristic. Putting myself in the shoes of an honorable gentleman from that time, upon hearing names like “bubonic plague” or “tuberculosis” fear would strike my heart. Only way to protect my future offspring against the scourge would be to impregnate a woman with impenetrable natural defenses. The ability to maintain energy reserves to use for a rainy day would be critical to the success of my genetic line.
Interesting ideas, no? However, we do not live in the 1800’s. Thankfully, modern scientists have created a plethora of drugs that attack and destroy vermin. No longer are men limited to characters like Isabel who previously had monopoly over men from good families such as myself. WE ARE LIBERATED. Those women, who had not received an iota of attention as a result of their inability to hold onto prized lipids are now having a field day. Lately, the tables seem to be turning where this idea of “we are even better than men” has gone to these lightweights head, but that will change and so can you.
Time has come to turpentine the canvas clean and paint a new portrait that reflects the realities of today. Isabel no more! I believe a better depiction of your potential would be found in quality publications such as Playboy, Maxim, and Stuff. This will take hard work, an open mind, starvation, and possibly vomit and drugs. Honey, you CAN DO IT.
Ultimately the choice is yours: Either it’s Dona Isabel Cobos de Porcel or it’s Heidi Klum. Either you can be the fantasy of voyeuristic dead ghosts who have been masturbating to women like yourself for eons, or you can be the fantasy of the living and bring much pleasure to your’s truly.
Sincerely, GujuDude
No … but isn’t is just assumed that he’s gay?
In my experience ALOT of men prefer women with more meat on their bones. I believe this has already been discussed here on SM.
Especially the men I prefer (of a certain ethnic background).
Its proportion that counts. How the body is proportioned. A thin but proportioned woman will look better than a larger non-proportioned one, and a larger proportioned woman better than a thin non-proportioned one.
Same goes for men.
I had a real thing for skinny and effeminate looking guys as a teenager, but as I matured as a woman, my preference changed for bigger, more built guys, even if they have a few extra pounds, no problem. I like something to grab onto and make me feel warm like I’m under a big warm blanket.
Ultimately what really matters is what’s on the inside and how two people “vibe” together. But if we are talking solely looks, which we are here, then proportion and curves are the key for women, and masculine build is the thing for men.
I think Rani looked better when she was heavier.
He’s assumed to be gay by whom? Indians in India or Indians outside of India?
Anyone who’s seen him walk and talk?
Totally a western perspective. Ever been to Uttar Pradesh? At least half the men act very effeminate, yet I doubt all of them are gay, maybe half though.
Anyone else thinks the level of dicussion on SM has lately taken a nosedive? I’ve seen my share of crappy discussions on SM, but this has to be the pits.
I don’t think so, culturo-socio-sexual theory is very interesting.
Good God, that was a joke.
Seriously folks, “Whatever floats your boat”; “To each your own”…
Agreed. And the objection that “men don’t mind” is bullshit, b/c you’re impacting all of us with your presence and words. I mind. Taz minds. That matters, even though we don’t have penises. That whole line of reasoning annoys me…what, so if you can flirt your way out of this situation, that makes it all okay? No.
I think part of what makes me distinctly uncomfortable about this situation, Pardesi Gori, is that I feel that on some level, we’re forced to give you carte blanche to behave passive-aggressively or say whatever borderline offensive thing you want, b/c if we react negatively (as we would in a Mumbai minute if you were desi!), then we’re being mean to the white girl and we’re evil. How dare we. Then WE look bad, which sucks b/c I think our concerns (as well as those which have been expressed to me on back channels or IRL from our readers) are valid.
I’ve gone on record about how I want this blog to have a diverse audience AND be a safe, happy, comfy place for all brownz…but I feel like my hospitality is getting slightly abused here, by a situation which leaves me in an impossible place.
Yup and nope. I feel you, kid.
Speaking of exotification …
Some of the most beautiful men I have ever seen are Sardars in Delhi.
Wow!
Classic Indian good looks. By that I mean the stuff that is described in Indian poetry;
lotus petal shaped eyes (kamal nayan)
eyebrows shaped like the bows of cupid
long flowing (often curly) black hair, like Krishna
tall, regal, “warrior-like” build
lips as red as bimba fruits
elegant fashion sense
Really, many of them look like those paintings, you all know the ones I’m talking about.
Sigh.
Well, its pretty well known in most of Mumbai’s “Gay Bombay” community that SRK and Johar have something going on. On Johar’s TV show “Koffee with Karan”, an Oprah style talk show, Johar mentioned SRK in EVERY SINGLE EPISODE, even when there were a slew of other guests. I think he asked one of the guests if they preferred SRK or Salman Khan once, and they cheekily replied, “You tell us, Karan”. Also, Karan has made sure to include some gay innuendos in some of his movies (i.e. Kal Ho Na Ho and others)…its just one of those things, and I don’t think it has to do with SRK being effeminate. He seems fairly manly without being over the top, like Salman Khan. Hello testosterone!
There was this big controversy when he appeared in a bubble bath with a very questionable ponytail (<.5 inches) for the Lux soap anniversary commercial. Check it out: http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/catalyst/2005/09/29/stories/2005092900160300.htm
My understanding is that there’s only one gay person in India, generally referred to as The Gay.
Yes. And yes.
IMO, that’s not what this is, at all. It’s insipid “Team Jolie vs. Team Pitt-cheering”, “which Bollywood tart (whom I don’t give two shits about) is hotter?”-arguing, “who is sexy?” time-suckage. I haven’t learned anything from this thread, which stopped being interesting to me once the Anand Jon talk (which was TOPICAL, unlike most of the rest) stopped.
As for interesting theories, here’s one of mine: throwing jargon atop what you personally prefer in bed doesn’t make the Baby Jesus cry any less.
Against any judgement gotta say;
You know, some, or should I say enough Desi men are ok with a little bit of a “oh indian guys are hot” thing. Why not? Its all in fun for the most part. I’m sure you Desi women have enjoyed that kind of thing at one point. It beats being Mr Math-is-fun. We kind of deserve our day in the sun too. I’m sure some Desi women get kind of happy to hear, like on the News Tab that an Indian woman was judged to be the hottest lawyer, but if you notice, its rare for Desi men to get the same kind of thing. I think its got more to do with that social power is held not by goris, but goras. The other alternative is that Desi men are just not as attractive in their way as Desi women. Is anyone going to go there? :-). Hope not, but on the other hand it would be an interesting discussion.
I think this topic, secretley occupies a lot more people’s minds than let on
Hey I wrote that above post before reading Anna’s. So I wasn’t trying to egg anyone on.
Anyway, I think way too much analysation is going into me and what I write.
I was reading a book on that just yesterday, people who anylyze too much.
I already clarified that exotic to me carries no negative connotations so that when I use the word (which I rarely do), it’s in a positive light.
Also, I rarely call desis “exotic”, so I don’t see why desis are getting riled.
I’ve not called anyone on SM exotic. Not saying that you all aren’t attractive…
Anyway, guys, if a woman calls you “exotic”, does that make you feel bad?
If you know beforehand that she means it has a compliment, this day and age’s uber-compliment of “sexy” – would you still be offended?
I’d like to hear from the men.
You must have missed the micro-lingam discussion. We’re on an upswing.
Anna, lots of people responded to rude comments made towards your last post (the punjabi/amharic one) that if someone did not like the post, they don’t have to read it. Once something starts to get boring to us, better we not go back and read it again and again.
I wish your advice were applicable to my situation; however, like every other blogger here, I have to monitor these threads, so I don’t have the luxury of avoiding them, not while they occur in our “house”.
Your comment doesn’t work for another reason; the situations aren’t analogous. People were criticizing MY WRITING and my choice of TOPICS. I did not do that to Taz, at all. In fact, I started writing this exact post yesterday, so I obviously have no quibble with the content or the blogger who put it out there.
I was agreeing with another commenter that this thread was starting to decay. As a MODERATOR here, that’s entirely within my rights, if not expected of me. I’d rather play sheepdog than shut an entire thread down– I’m sure most of you would prefer that, too. Minor adjustments mean the party keeps grooving.