Over at Wonkette today they were asking a real brain teaser. Which one of these is not like the others?
Hey, they do it in every single Bollywood movie or Indian channel serial drama. Why not the official Louisiana Governor’s portrait too? As a comparison, here is his official portrait from the 109th Congress (also seen in the middle left photo). Over at The Root they are wondering if Harry Reid was right?
Research strongly suggests that white voters do favor lighter-skinned black candidates. Political scientist Nayda Terkildsen studied the effect of skin color on white voting preferences in her 1993 paper, “When White Voters Evaluate Black Candidates: The Processing Implications of Candidate Skin Color, Prejudice, and Self-Monitoring.”In an experimental study, she presented a random sample of adults descriptions of “one of three fictitious candidates running for governor.” Each candidate was described in identical terms with the only difference being an attached photograph of either “a white male, a light-complected black male, or a dark-complected black male.” Terkildsen found a statistically significant effect that “black candidates were penalized by white voters based on the candidate’s race, skin color, and individual levels of racial prejudice.”
Put another way, when presented with otherwise identical candidates, white voters generally preferred the white candidate to the black candidates and the lighter-skinned candidate to the darker-skinned candidate. (Terkildsen’s analysis only looked at white voters, but perhaps Reid’s remarks will encourage someone to study the effect of skin color on candidate preferences among blacks, Latinos and Asians, too.) [Link]
I bet you, as alluded to in the last sentence, that studies will show that African, Latino, and Asian voters will either conciously or subconciously vote for the lighter skinned candidate too. Like I said, all I have to do is turn on Zee TV to prove this. So I am not going to be overly critical of Jindal for the lighting guy he chose. I am however, going to bow my head in disappointment.
Firstly, it’s “Toe” the line.
Secondly, you and I obviously hang out around different White people.
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Spend a few days in the great state of Kansas, or the sewer of USA. Even the godly folks of Wichita, the most “cosmopolitan” city, will help you in earning another perceptive. t
wtf
perspective.
Yoga Fire and Sulabh, sounds like I need to get out (west-mid?) more…..
Over here the only people I can “keep it real” with are non-whites. All my white friends think I’m “racist” just for making the same observations that non-white people make about people.
I think it’s just the subset of liberal arts college educated White people who are all serious about political correctness, but even then if you disarm them enough to be relaxed around you they will let you know what they really think. It’s more of a “things you say in polite company” thing than anything else. If they’re relatively assured that you’re not going to judge them negatively for being candid they’re more likely to be candid.
The only personal rules I follow in the PC vein is that I don’t make comments about anybody that I wouldn’t say to their faces and I don’t make disparaging jokes about peoples’ religious figures (Scientology excepted). This is not out of a sense of being PC but because there isn’t any way to do it without being disrespectful or hurtful.
Hmmmmmmm……. not my experience. What they really think is … PC thoughts!
There’s a tremendous amount of “white guilt” still haunting the psyches of many white people. I wish they’d get over it.
If I had to choose I must say I’d rather have them on this extreme than the other one.
“There’s a tremendous amount of “white guilt” still haunting the psyches of many white people. I wish they’d get over it.”
Speaking as a “white person” I don’t really feel like I have “white guilt”. I DO try to treat other humans with care and respect, not out of some sense of “white guilt” but out of a sense of humanity. The only times I hear people talk about “white guilt” or “white woman’s burden” is people accusing me of being such here. It seems like more people have assumptions about my so-called ‘guilt’ rather than facts.
You must have a really twisted sense of morality to consider guilt as something bad. Secondly, the idea that there is a “tremendous” amount of white guilt is complete BS. Thirdly, if you think that you being an outspoken obnoxious racist (towards whom? who is so inferior to desis?) is “keeping it real” you better think again.
Methinks you have a lot of grief coming your way. What goes around comes around (you believe in karma right?).
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!?! WTF did this goofiness come from?
By “guilt” I don’t mean regret over something hurtful you or I may have done to someone, I mean this silly sense of guilt that some white people have over stuff THEY NEVER DID to people they NEVER DID IT TO.
And yeah, I “beLIEve” in karma. That’s why I don’t feel guilty over the bad stuff I NEVER DID, and only feel guilty over the stuff that I did do (which I try to avoid doing, if it’s going to make me feel guilty).
“By “guilt” I don’t mean regret over something hurtful you or I may have done to someone, I mean this silly sense of guilt that some white people have over stuff THEY NEVER DID to people they NEVER DID IT TO.”
I totally agree with you that this is very silly. From my perspective (a white person growing up in an almost completely homogeneous white area) I don’t really see that many people who express having a specific personal guilt about these things. From my experience, many white people who grew up in mostly white areas are not racist, but rather AFRAID their words or actions might be perceived as racist. Especially for people who grew up in a homogeneous culture, I think they feel a bit apprehensive about what they should or should not say to people. Honestly, I was not close friends with people of different races until college, simply because there really weren’t many opportunities before that. I remember my friend of Indian descent describing himself as Black and I said “but, you’re not black, you’re brown!” Suddenly realizing what I said,my ears started burning, not because I felt my observation was racist (more like I was just surprised he described himself that way, and spoke in surprise) but because I was afraid that he MIGHT be offended…. he didn’t really seem to mind, though, and I realized that I was being far more worried about “what I say” than my friends… Having friends from different backgrounds allowed me to be less afraid or guarded from what I say and less afraid of “making a mistake”.
In another situation, (a group of almost all white students) someone was trying to remember who a specific girl was. Everyone was trying to describe her and everyone was too afraid to describe her in the clearest way: “the African-American”, since she was the only one in the group. I don’t see anything wrong with describing a person’s basic physical characteristics to identify her, but I think people are very afraid to be THOUGHT of as racist.. so avoid mentioning race at all– very silly but something I noticed as true in mostly white areas. I don’t think this has to do with some sort of ‘guilt’ I think it comes from a WANT to be a nice and good person but without really having experiences with other groups of people so they end up being TOO careful (and hence kind of awkward)
Linzi, I’ve seen the behaviour you are talking about above too. Some White people are OVERLY sensitive, and it would be nice if the same courtesies were extended the other way.
I guess the “white guilt” thing I’m referring to comes from politically correct White people with a mission to make White people the world over feel bad about being White, you know, because some time in the past some countries colonized some other countries and ish like dat.
Yawn.
Those types are really annoying, and boring.
Glad to see someone else here see how stupid white guilt. It’s just too bad that the elite liberal left in Western Europe are full of white guilt, The backlash due to the elite liberal left not speaking out about certain problems has led to the rise of the far right getting more popular in Western Europe.
I think Ben Folds wrote a song about it once.
I checked out your profile pic and you don’t really look white to me. Not white as in white european, which is what I believe is being discussed here.
Sathya, Linzi looks TOTALLY European, what are you talking about?
Elite liberal leftists are full of b.s. most of the time. If only they were around a few hundred years ago, then yeah, they might’ve done some good, but right now they are managing only to make the entire world into one big THIRD WORLD COUNTRY, while they continue to be rich, elite and to associate exclusively with only other rich, elite people.
Anyway, this was all planned centuries ago and we are watching the unfolding of a higher order set to destroy the human race on Earth.
I think you are confusing political correctness with white guilt. Some whites may be overly sensitive around you because they think you as a colored person are a victim or descendant of victims of white mischief. You need to get around more and read more instead of generalizing based on your clearly limited experience.
Guilt is not always personal. If your nation/tribe/race has committed numerous atrocities on others as whites have done in the last few centuries then, if you have a conscience, guilt and the resolve to make amends if possible is the morally correct response. This is why Germany has embraced guilt for the Holocaust. Based on your amoral reasoning germans should not feel guilty over their racial crimes against humanity.
BTW, you didn’t answer my question: who are you so proudly and outspokenly racist against and why?
Also, do you really wish to be around racist whites? Which is what you seem to be masochistly yearning for. Clearly you are ignorant of history.
Sathya, I have no idea where you got the idea that 1. I am racist and, 2. I want to hang around racist people. Where in any of my comments did I express any such thing?
Regarding current day Germans: if for whatever reason, they want to take some responsibility for something they are NOT AT ALL RESPONSIBLE FOR, well, what can I say? That is their personal choice.
I personally do not take on ANYBODY else’s responsibility but my own.
I believe in personal accountability, karma and reincarnation. I am not responsible for what a single other soul has done or not done.
I am accountable for my actions only. Not your’s, not my grandmother’s, and certainly not anybody from many lifetimes ago when I may have still been in animal, insect or plant form.
No she TOTALLY does not. Based on that picture.
Oh boy, another nutty right wing conspiracy theorist. Why am I not surprised?
Please try to be honest:
Who wants this thread to die? Anyone? Anyone? Just me? No, maybe some of you do, too, with these newer comments.
Because all Europeans are blondes with blue eyes, right?
Again, cite one racist comment I’ve made here, if you’re going to accuse me of racism.
And no, I’m not a right wing conspiracy theorist nut. By the way, both the far right AND the far left hold to the same conspiracy theories.
I don’t follow conspiracies, I don’t need to. All the info you need to know what’s going on and why is available in mainstream news and in history books. Reality makes conspiracy theories pale in comparison.
SM Intern wrote:
Sathya is Prema, and Settle for Sendhil is Pardesi Gori. I think we can safely close the thread now.
wheat guilt is also a problem
TROLL WARS!
cue John Williams soundtrack
How do you get from like talking about one subject to something related yet so different? Most comments here are obvious
Wanderer, tangents, my friend, tangents. 🙂
OK to clarify for the two arguing over my ethnic/racial/regional/whatever origins (this gave me quite a chuckle, by the way):
My ancestry includes:
Croatian- 25% German- 25% Polish- very small amount English- I think less than 25% French- some small amount Mystery- ???
Now, according to my own personal opinion, I most closely identify with the Croatian part– this family came over more recently and this culture is still part of my everyday life (food, language, strong family ties with this part of my family, etc). I also personally I look more Croatian than the other things. I am rather (as we call it in my family) ‘olive skin toned’ so this may have thrown you off, but I do believe by all American definitions, I am indeed, ‘white’. And sipping hot chocolate. mmm.