Class and Compassion are not in Vogue in India

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I saw it myself and then a few of you blew up the tip line (thanks, Taara), my twitter and my skypager; on Sunday, the Grey Lady featured an article about Vogue India’s…interesting choice of models, for one of their recent editorial shoots. The “creative” (and by creative, I mean not at all) direction the magazine (which I still can’t procure in DC) stumbled through raised your threaded-eyebrows as well as some of your hackles, and rightly so.

Giving impoverished people $10,000 bags, Burberry bumbershoots and Fendi bibs for their children reeks of an appalling level of arrogance, an utterly clueless infatuation with “edginess”, and a heartless disregard for those for whom India does not yet shine. But let me tell you how I really feel, as I fisk the NYT article freely:

NEW DELHI — An old woman missing her upper front teeth holds a child in rumpled clothes — who is wearing a Fendi bib (retail price, about $100).
A family of three squeezes onto a motorbike for their daily commute, the mother riding without a helmet and sidesaddle in the traditional Indian way — except that she has a Hermès Birkin bag (usually more than $10,000, if you can find one) prominently displayed on her wrist.
Elsewhere, a toothless barefoot man holds a Burberry umbrella (about $200).
Welcome to the new India — at least as Vogue sees it.

Way to keep it classy, VI. Also, just so you know, the text on that picture says, “Baby’s Day Out: It’s never too early to start living in style.”

Vogue India’s August issue presented a 16-page vision of supple handbags, bejeweled clutches and status-symbol umbrellas, modeled not by runway stars or the wealthiest fraction of Indian society who can actually afford these accessories, but by average Indian people.

Many fashion magazines (and this is lamentable, in my opinion) prefer to use celebrities instead of models to display designer wares; surely some contact-lens-sporting ingenue would have happily offered her services? And also, agreed to appear in this “vision” of label whoring? Actually, they could have kept the spread only moderately offensive by replicating what many of their vestern sister publications do, and having said “model” out amid the grittiness of poor people, who, if we are to believe VI, are the new black. That’s hot.

Perhaps not surprisingly, not everyone in India was amused.

Not just India. Everywhere people have functioning hearts and brains.

The editorial spread was “not just tacky but downright distasteful” said Kanika Gahlaut, a columnist for the daily newspaper Mail Today that is based here, who denounced it as an “example of vulgarity.”
There’s nothing “fun or funny” about putting a poor person in a mud hut in clothing designed by Alexander McQueen, she said in a telephone interview. “There are farmer suicides here, for God’s sake” she said, referring to thousands of Indian farmers who have killed themselves in the last decade because of debt.

Um, like, Kanika? Who, like, cares? If I can’t see it, it, like, doesn’t exist. So yay, no farmer suicides! Yum, this sand tastes good!

Vogue India editor Priya Tanna’s message to critics of the August shoot: “Lighten up,” she said in a telephone interview. Vogue is about realizing the “power of fashion” she said, and the shoot was saying that “fashion is no longer a rich man’s privilege. Anyone can carry it off and make it look beautiful,” she said.

takes earrings off and smears vaseline on face

Bia…don’t even GET me started on how you be hawkin’ that shameful skin lightenin’ bullshit in your magazine. Hie thee to iTunes and get thee some Tupac. The joint’s called “Keep ya head up”. It would’ve been an apposite selection for your shoot, but I’m more interested in imprinting the following on your mind, one time: “The blacker the berry the sweeter the juice, I say the darker the flesh then the deeper the roots…”

“You have to remember with fashion, you can’t take it that seriously,” Ms. Tanna said. “We weren’t trying to make a political statement or save the world,” she said.

What kind of statement were you attempting to make? That it’s AWESOME to exploit poor people? That having a gaping black hole in your chest where your heart should be is teh new hawtness?

Tell me, Ms. Tanna, did these “models” get fed by craft services or whatever the hell usually provides caffeine, barf bags and celery sticks to those who are working hard? And isn’t it amazing that many models the world over starve themselves to attain unrealistic physical dimensions while many of your models don’t even have the chance to make such a heart-breaking choice? They starve because they don’t have enough. But don’t let that ugly truth get in the way of your vulgar logo-hawking.

Nearly half of India’s population — about 456 million people — live on less than $1.25 a day, according to World Bank figures released last week. But as any well-briefed luxury goods executive or private banker knows, India also has a fast-growing wealthy class and emerging middle class that make it one of the world’s most attractive new places to sell high-end products.
The juxtaposition between poverty and growing wealth presents an unsavory dilemma for luxury goods makers jumping into India: How does one sell something like a $1,000 handbag in a country where most people will never amass that sum of money in their lives, and many are starving? The answer is not clear cut, though Vogue’s approach may not be the way to go.

You think?

Look, I’m no fool. I know that there have always been filthy rich people in India who consume conspicuously while sighing with relief that they have gates around their compounds to keep out the even filthier beggars.

I know that the West isn’t much different either, that people in Manhattan who wait two years on a list for the chance to drop $14,000 on a Birkin often don’t feel guilt about such an acquisition nor some need to balance out such a purchase with a commensurate contribution to help those whom they, too, step over or otherwise ignore.

This isn’t new, in either part of the world. But that doesn’t make this creative “vision” right.

The subjects of the Vogue shoot are the people that luxury goods manufacturers might hope to one day become their customers. Companies are attracted to emerging markets like India because of the millions of people who are “coming from no income and rising quite fast,” said Nick Debnam, chairman of KPMG’s consumer markets practice in the Asia-Pacific region.

Uh…call me a cynical elitist, but I doubt that any of the people featured in that editorial shoot are going to drop rs. 4500 on a logo-ridden snippet of cloth, for their babies to puke on…they just might have other needs to prioritize. Shocking, but true!

The idea of being able to afford something but not buying it because you do not want to flaunt your money reflects a “very Western attitude,” he said. In China and other emerging markets, “if you’ve made it, you want everyone to know that you’ve made it,” and luxury brands are the easiest way to do that, he said.

Jigga wha? Many people in the West happily flaunt their purchasing power, even if they’re miring themselves in debt to do so. Meanwhile, most of my cautious, traditional, “sober” and “boring” DBD Aunties and Uncles drove Toyotas, never bought designer clothes, lived in modestly-decorated homes…and then paid for their children’s educations in full AND socked away hundreds of thousands of dollars in savings. I never attributed that lifestyle to their “western attitude”. Ever. I was always taught that that was part of their “Indian-ness”. Remind me to call my Mom and chew her out for misguiding me like that…

This bit is what angered me the most, too:

Not taking a close enough look at the “real people” is drawing criticism for Vogue, too. “The magazine does not even bother to identify the subjects” of the photos, said Ms. Gahlaut, the columnist. Instead, Vogue names the brands of the accessories in the captions, and says they are worn by a lady or a man.

They’re just props. Why recognize their humanity or ask their names? Oh, right…because decency should always be in fashion.

127 thoughts on “Class and Compassion are not in Vogue in India

  1. Great post. The only thing more annoying than the car-wreck fascination India’s poverty holds for the western media is the utter lack of regard or concern for it by their Indian peers. Rich people in India are so used to ignoring the plight of their countrymen they are not even capable of recognizing when something like this is exploitative, demeaning and dehumanizing. Then again, these are usually the same people who clean their house and throw their garbage in the street, so I guess it’s not that huge of a surprise.

  2. Thanks for the post.

    Its just truly myopic for Vogue India to think this is trendy and a vision, and wouldn’t be deemed so tasteless to most people. And i agree , at the very least they could have given names or roles role for the people used!

  3. 2 · Dr1001 said

    And i agree , at the very least they could have given names or roles role for the people used!

    Who cares about the people? The names which matter were given…Burberry, Fendi, Hermes. At least they were consistent with the dehumanizing treatment.

  4. Disgusting…they are mocking the poor. That Priya Tanna (and others involved) needs to face some serious, withering , mass-based criticism that’ll make her apologise instead of being so defiant and flippant about it. Horrible…

  5. personally it doesn’t get my boxer-briefs in a twist, but i’d be curious to know what the models and their poor brethen think.

  6. I suspect Vogue India also saved a small fortune by not hiring professional models. At least if they paid these people princely sums for appearing it might mitigate some of the disconnect. Also, it’s arrogant to assume that this is the sort of fashion to which everyone in India aspires – some of which is downright ugly. However, it’s not only Vogue India that does this. Plenty of Western fashion magazines go to developing countries and do shoots like this, only with western models posed in scenes right out of British colonial India or Africa etc. In those shoots, the “natives” are merely background props, not the main props as in this one.

    Having said this, I don’t think it’s always entirely wrong to use people in poorer countries in these types of ads/campaigns – there are ways it can be done without seeming like bad taste and as long as you pay them what you would pay a professional model. Treat them like professionals and with respect.

  7. Anna, it’s a complimentary metaphor. Do I have to explain how?

    If you had given the whole campaign a few more minutes of thought before jumping all over it you too would have agreed with me. Do you have any idea how much money and professional time goes into brainstorming these campaigns? Given the delicacy with which Vogue and all have to tread in new markets/cultures they actually err on the safe side. They had already factored in your reaction before they went on with this campaign but had realistically hoped most readers will be wiser.

  8. This is not the first time this is being done.

    I remember a few months ago, I saw some pics of African tribes women and men sporting Haute Couture. VI just copied the idea and extended it to Indian villages.

    Regarding the matter of “their names were not given” : If you’ve read any such fashion-porn spreads, you’ll notice that they treat all participants the same way. It wasnt meant to de-humanize them, but while we are getting all emo on the subject, lets accuse Vogue of that too.

  9. I know that the West isn’t much different either, that people in Manhattan who wait two years on a list for the chance to drop $14,000 on a Birkin often don’t feel guilt about such an acquisition nor some need to balance out such a purchase with a commensurate contribution to help those whom they, too, step over or otherwise ignore.

    This isn’t new, in either part of the world. But that doesn’t make this creative “vision” right.

    I’m glad you included the above line; just so people won’t automatically assume only Indians can be so cruel. The Vogue pics makes me sick. It seems like in India, there is much grassroots movement against issues such as poverty, aids, caste discrimination, religious violence, etc. but imo I don’t see enough wealthy and powerful Indians in India using their clout to change the perception of these issues. I know there’s Shilpa Shetty’s and a few others — but I do think it is much less than what is needed or what could be done. I’ve always said the stars in bollywood are so popular, the movies reach so many, and these stars could do much more to raise awareness of social ills and influence middle class indians. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, but not enough wealthy Indians do anything and they potentially have the money and clout to influence – I haven’t read Indian Vogue so I don’t know what type of stuff their articles cover but this photo shoot is distasteful, ignorant and makes light of the plight of millions who are starving.

    Indian society is still very hierarchical; the ideas of equality that is in our literature and our history and our present (like in our constitution or modern labor movements or spiritual leaders like Amma, who many people in my family follow) are too often overridden by established hierarchies.

    Here’s other examples of indifference to established hierarchies –

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/01/AR2008090101168_pf.html

    http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/08/07/asia/letter.php

  10. Anna, it’s a complimentary metaphor. Do I have to explain how? If you had given the whole campaign a few more minutes of thought before jumping all over it you too would have agreed with me. Do you have any idea how much money and professional time goes into brainstorming these campaigns? Given the delicacy with which Vogue and all have to tread in new markets/cultures they actually err on the safe side. They had already factored in your reaction before they went on with this campaign but had realistically hoped most readers will be wiser.

    Why don’t you enlighten us, since you’re so wise and all?

    The fact they did it in Africa is not a valid justification. It is equally reprehensible, it just wouldn’t have attracted the attention of a South Asian blog.

  11. Jigga wha? Many people in the West happily flaunt their purchasing power, even if they’re miring themselves in debt to do so. Meanwhile, most of my cautious, traditional, “sober” and “boring” DBD Aunties and Uncles drove Toyotas, never bought designer clothes, lived in modestly-decorated homes…and then paid for their children’s educations in full AND socked away hundreds of thousands of dollars in savings. I never attributed that lifestyle to their “western attitude”. Ever. I was always taught that that was part of their “Indian-ness”. Remind me to call my Mom and chew her out for misguiding me like that…

    So True!

  12. 1 · SpottieOttieDopaliscious said

    Rich people in India are so used to ignoring the plight of their countrymen they are not even capable of recognizing when something like this is exploitative, demeaning and dehumanizing. Then again, these are usually the same people who clean their house and throw their garbage in the street, so I guess it’s not that huge of a surprise.

    Such evil people, na. Look at them, driving a sub-compact cars, wearing levi jeans, and and eating at McDonalds!!!! When half of the Indians don’t have enough to eat!!! Can you believe it? I think they should be forced to share their fries/sub-compact car/2 bedroom home/ with poor people.

    These nouvaeu-riche bastards commute for hours to work every day and put in 70-75 hours a week on a regular basis. You know what! These people work on weekends too. What a shame, these losers have no family values

    I should go there and curse them into caring about the `plight of their countrymen’. While I am there I will teach them how to be generous.

    They don’t call me mother Teresa of US for nothing.

  13. Why don’t you enlighten us, since you’re so wise and all?

    It’s foolish to be wise where predictably knee-jerk outrage abounds.

  14. 7 · Humphrey said

    Anna, it’s a complimentary metaphor. Do I have to explain how?

    Please do, especially since I’m not the only one who doesn’t get it.

    If you had given the whole campaign a few more minutes of thought before jumping all over it you too would have agreed with me.

    The article ran Sunday. Today is Tuesday. I was called for a quote about it yesterday. So I actually have given the campaign a few minutes of thought, before deciding to jump all over it. And I still don’t agree with you. 🙂

    8 · suede said

    It wasnt meant to de-humanize them, but while we are getting all emo on the subject, lets accuse Vogue of that too.

    But some magazines DO name their models, in the little blurbs of information either beside the image or at the end of the spread. It’s something for which I always look. But don’t let that get in the way of calling me the emo-meanie who accuses Vogue of stuff. 😉

  15. Snark aside, there is a tradition of philanthropy among the upper class in American society that you would be hard-pressed to find in India, where most social service occurs among peers or the middle class. While you could argue there are mixed motivations for doing so, the wealthy in America often not contribute a good deal towards improving their society through charities, education or what have you.

    This is not an attitude that is prevalent in India and all your self-righteousness on the part of the newly minted middle classes (who were not the subject of my original comment) hardly changes that. In fact your defensiveness would indicate there is some truth to my statement; or perhaps you’re merely proud that you don’t give a shit about people who live in the gutter?

  16. It’s foolish to be wise where predictably knee-jerk outrage abounds.

    Who is foolish? The person who highlights something that is potentially controversial enough that the New York Times ran and article on it, or the person who goes on blogs to post their own counter-outrage on behalf of one of the world’s largest fashion-glossies? Don’t worry Humphrey, I’m sure Priya Tanna is sending you a personal thank you for defending the honor of her magazine.

  17. It’s crass. It’s tacky. And from the few pictures I’ve seen online, it doesn’t even look artistic.
    Give the Fendi bibs to babies of call centre senior managers and the Hermes bag to a TCS fresher. These are your future possible customers. Not villagers who wear their sarees over their heads. Not for another 100 years, at least, and hopefully never. Are we all to be turned into conspicuous consumers?

    And maybe it’s better than just using the poor in the background as props, but neither one is actually good. You can do really great, tasteful fashion shoots without exploiting people.

  18. I wanted to respectfully point that the title of the post may be read as the whole country of a billion plus people engages in conduct like this, which is misleading. Vogue’s Indian edition yes, but the entire Indian population absolutely not.

  19. Umber desi-

    I didn’t read it that way. Plus, I hardly think a blog post’s headline is going to be treated as a factual pronouncement on the character of the whole subcontinent. Not to mention SM is not here to provide good PR for India; though either way I don’t think it’s much of a concern.

  20. 18 · Umber Desi said

    I wanted to respectfully point that the title of the post may be read as the whole country of a billion plus people engages in conduct like this, which is misleading.

    That’s helpful because I came thisclose to not using this title, for the exact reason which you so kindly pointed out. If I were reading it aloud, it would sound more like, “Class and Compassion are not in…Vogue in India”, if that makes sense. I was trying to be clever, but I worried about insinuating something about a billion people. I’m tempted to edit it, so that people don’t misinterpret what I meant. : /

  21. Do you have any idea how much money and professional time goes into brainstorming these campaigns?… They had already factored in your reaction before they went on with this campaign but had realistically hoped most readers will be wiser.

    wouldn’t it makes sense then to assume they wanted to stir up controversy in order to generate publicity. so, in other words, they hoped most reaaders would not be wiser b/c the whole point was to generate outrage.

    so, with that in mind, my reaction was a staggeringly brilliant attempt to undermine this campaign whereas ewveryone else fell into their well laid trap.

  22. There is bad PR and then there is fair, I don’t think anyone here expects SM to be a mouthpiece of anything, all I pointed was something I personally thought may sound misleading.

  23. Anna,

    Thank you for the explanation and I hope everyone understands your point as you know how little things get blown out of proportion in the comments.

  24. 23 · umber desi said

    you know how little things get blown out of proportion in the comments.

    PREACH! That is indeed something about which I know far too much. 🙂 I really do appreciate your feedback, btw. And if I haven’t already told you, every time I see you comment, it makes me smile, because it reminds me of my Crayola 64-pack— though I think that color was “raw umber”. 😀 Also, going to wiki made me realize– umber looks kinda sepia!

  25. definitely an offensive photospread, another example of a so-called “edgy” concept that doesn’t translate when put on the ground.

  26. hope everyone understands your point as you know how little things get blown out of proportion in the comments.

    From the crassness of Vogue India to blowing it all out of proportion took …

    there is a tradition of philanthropy among the upper class in American society that you would be hard-pressed to find in India
    all your self-righteousness on the part of the newly minted middle classes

    … just 15 comments.

  27. I loved it. The stark contrast between old world India and new world consumerism was stunning and catchy. It made the world talk. Well done Vogue. THAT is what a great photo op does — make history. Models more often than not are NOT listed in photo spreads.

  28. I agree with your post Anna, and I was also disgusted. I’m really curious to hear what the actual subjects of the photo shoot have to say about this and how exactly they were roped into this spread.

  29. Usually the corps. are careful to follow up such shenanigans with donations – school , health care center, viagra-viagra. Did anyone hear of such doings in this case?

  30. I’m in shock. This makes me cringe in embarrassment and disgust. In very very poor taste. Creativity would have been mildly apprecited if there was a personalized story behind the people and how the particular shoot/campaign helped uplift them or provide them with something they didn’t already have to better their lives.

  31. wouldn’t it makes sense then to assume they wanted to stir up controversy in order to generate publicity. so, in other words, they hoped most reaaders would not be wiser b/c the whole point was to generate outrage.

    sometimes you’re more than just a pretty face, Manju.

    I’m surprised by how little there is in the photos that would justify the attempt to juxtapose high-end goods on those who can’t afford it. Obviously for hype and shock value. Because the people photographed are far more interesting than the outrageously priced, generic products placed on them. I don’t care about the stupid bib or the handbag, but like some of you, I want to know the individuals’ names, their stories and whether or not they were compensated for the use of their time and image.

  32. There is this rather famous quote: “Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

    I think of that every time fashion magazines, and chic stuff in general, comes up on my radar (which is rarely). Anything you say will “add value” to them. Your anger, your sadness, your moral outrage, your distress….they will take everything, and add that to their brand. Fashion is a semiotic dementor.

    There are only two things that they can’t stand: being ignored, and being laughed at.

    How about asking these people to hold a weekly session in front of the Vog office? 🙂 And maybe at the Vog editor’s house as well? 🙂

  33. Models more often than not are NOT listed in photo spreads.

    Thank you. That was a point I wanted to make too but comment # 13 will tell you why I didn’t choose to.

  34. Snark aside, there is a tradition of philanthropy among the upper class in American society that you would be hard-pressed to find in India, where most social service occurs among peers or the middle class.

    When was the last time you saw Amitabh Bachchan or the Tata Company doing anything about the spread of polio in India

  35. if you read ms. gahlaut’s original column, she’s annoyed by the non-naming because of this:

    “In the same issue, Vogue checks out what India is wearing, featuring the usual suspects, the Haseena Jethmalanis in Mumbai and the Shruti Hassans of Chennai.

    In this fashion story, the women featured are identified and quizzed on their personal style, which is reproduced in the photo captions.

    On the other hand, the magazine does not even bother to identify the subjects in the shoot in Jodhpur. It is as if poverty is a fashion prop. And that the names of poor people are not important, it is only the names of the brands — Etro, Dolce & Gabbana, Marc Jacobs — theyve been instructed to sport for the shoot that matter.”

    probably no different than magazines in which celebrities are identified, but models are not. but one can see why she made that comment if she was comparing the two sets of people in the Vogue India shoot.

    to me it seems as if Vogue India was just doing what most high-end designers and their outlets do: not really being malicious, but overestimating the power of fashion (or really, what is deemed fashionable by some, which they think does not equate to what is “traditional” or “authentic”, especially in developing countries) and ascribe to it some sort of high-falutin meaning beyond it being merely a garment stitched by someone that may or may not look better than something else. It’s the equivalent of those ridiculous Calvin Klein cologne/perfume ads that pretend they are “deep.” or models who make ugly faces on the runway because the designer thinks it makes his/her clothes more “meaningful” . Once in awhile, fashion actually means something, perhaps, but mostly not.

  36. I think the Vaogue spread is an awesome comment on conspicuous consumption, greed, and poverty in India. It shouldn’t be in a magazine, it should be an installation at a Museum of Modern Art. It’s fantastic.

    (also, as noted above, models are rarely identified in fashion spreads. They are props for the commodity being sold. Yet more political subtext!)

  37. When was the last time you saw Amitabh Bachchan or the Tata Company doing anything about the spread of polio in India

    Dude, Amitabh Bachchan and many actors do ads on TV for polio vaccine awareness.

    Shahbana Azmi has herself participated in door to door polio vaccine campaigns in villages. So have others.

  38. Models more often than not are NOT listed in photo spreads.

    Sure they are, although usually by first name only. As in, “Abhi wears G-string by Speedo, $400.”

    Great post, Anna.

  39. 28 · Harjot said

    Models more often than not are NOT listed in photo spreads.

    35 · Humphrey said

    Thank you. That was a point I wanted to make too but comment # 13 will tell you why I didn’t choose to.

    “More often than not” does not mean never. I’ve seen plenty of magazine spreads which tell you who is wearing what (right down to what agency they are from), just as I’ve seen plenty which don’t. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to wonder or wish they had done so, here, when there is precedent for such things. But you and Harjot seem to be more knowledgeable about this than me…perhaps you both work in the industry.

    Is comment 13 also why you haven’t responded to comment 14? If you “get it”, why not explain how it works to those of us who don’t? I was sincere when I asked you to do so…were you sincere when you offered?

  40. I don’t think it is blowing things out of proportion to attribute a general callousness to the Indian upper middle class/rich at large. Feudalism masquerades as capitalism in India. India would be much better off if the rich feared the poor

  41. 9 · PS said

    I know that the West isn’t much different either, that people in Manhattan who wait two years on a list for the chance to drop $14,000 on a Birkin often don’t feel guilt about such an acquisition nor some need to balance out such a purchase with a commensurate contribution to help those whom they, too, step over or otherwise ignore. This isn’t new, in either part of the world. But that doesn’t make this creative “vision” right.
    I’m glad you included the above line; just so people won’t automatically assume only Indians can be so cruel. The Vogue pics makes me sick. It seems like in India, there is much grassroots movement against issues such as poverty, aids, caste discrimination, religious violence, etc. but imo I don’t see enough wealthy and powerful Indians in India using their clout to change the perception of these issues. I know there’s Shilpa Shetty’s and a few others — but I do think it is much less than what is needed or what could be done. I’ve always said the stars in bollywood are so popular, the movies reach so many, and these stars could do much more to raise awareness of social ills and influence middle class indians. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, but not enough wealthy Indians do anything and they potentially have the money and clout to influence – I haven’t read Indian Vogue so I don’t know what type of stuff their articles cover but this photo shoot is distasteful, ignorant and makes light of the plight of millions who are starving.
    Indian society is still very hierarchical; the ideas of equality that is in our literature and our history and our present (like in our constitution or modern labor movements or spiritual leaders like Amma, who many people in my family follow) are too often overridden by established hierarchies.
    Here’s other examples of indifference to established hierarchies –
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/01/AR2008090101168_pf.html http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/08/07/asia/letter.php

    you are spot on about the “indifference to established hierarchies” but did you read the washington post article?? worst journalistic cliches possible with no real analysis…its easy to say whats wrong but not to explain why.

  42. Thanks for this post – I really enjoyed it to the point where i don’t have anything to add 🙂

  43. Lurker No.1:

    Thank you for saying what I was trying to, but much more eloquently. I wasn’t trying to throw all rich Indian people under the bus, I was merely pointing out that there is much more “indifference to established heirarchies” there than in America. That’s not to say rich Americans are inherently more generous than their Indian peers; more likely our society affords more respect and praise to those among the privileged who choose to give back, whereas in India is does not seem like one gets a tremendous amount of props for performing social service.

    /explanation

  44. Thank you Priya Tanna!

    I can offer you up as evidence to my mom and dad, how some women in India have become just as commercial and sophisticated as their western counterparts.

    There are not suitable girls in India anymore!

  45. 8 · suede said

    I remember a few months ago, I saw some pics of African tribes women and men sporting Haute Couture. VI just copied the idea and extended it to Indian villages.

    brown is the new black

  46. India would be much better off if the rich feared the poor

    Hey! Why stop at India – wouldn’t this world would be a better place if the rich feared the poor?

    Imagine – if all the super rich political contributors/bundlers/lobbyist of America feared the wrath of destitute Iraqi civilians. 😕