So Sree emailed me a grin-inducing link to the SAJAforum blog, where once again they are trying to…
test the “all desis know each other” theory and see if one of you can identify this model. [linkaya]
While the Microsoft billboard which inspired our original WTG post is apparently gone, there is no need to mourn the thrill of emulating Scooby-Doo while we attempt to solve a mystery. You see mutineers, we have ANOTHER model to play Kevin Bacon with!
…yesterday, as I walked into the Apple Store on Fifth Avenue and 59th St with my wife and kids, we were greeted by the poster (above)…Come on, folks, let’s ID her and give the theory a second chance.[linkaya]
Sree was basically asking the Mutiny if we were “in” when he sent me that GMail. I was all like, “Oh, we’re HELLA in!”, except I didn’t say that since I’m the only Northern Californian who refuses to hella anything.I was actually surprised that we didn’t figure out who Miss Office ’07 was. Our failure to discover her name (and alma mater, hobbies, biodata etc) shook my faith in the previously unchallenged idea which insisted that even though we Brownz might number a million+ here in Amreeka, none of us is more than two degrees apart, especially when super-friendsters like Shail exist. Two degrees, y’all. If it’s not true, then Aunties have terrifying powers of omniscience.
Anyway, I love how last time, the unidentified smiling desi was a model for Office ’07– a.k.a. poo— and this time, our brownette is reppin’ the maker of my beloved iBook. Ah, I’m easily amused, except by stupidity, so please, just like last time, no comments on skin color, weight, caste or anything else unnecessary, okay? Thanks.
Exactly! So why not choose a look that is the easiest to prepare? Some alpha female has to do it, then the minions will follow.
Even further OT, are there any Indian/South Asian sororities? I know of IND in SUNY Binghampton which is comprised of mostly strange and weird people that excel in hopping on one foot, as far as I remember. Perhaps they have the super big directory from which the mystery mentioned above could be solved.
I believe Delta Kappa Delta is a South Asian sorority (or maybe fratority). Not very many chapters yet though.
Bengali Chick – wet hair and comb out in shower. wrap in towel to remove excess water… don’t let it dry out!!! mix a dollup of bubble&bubble curling cream + very small sequeeze of got2b hair care glued spiking glue hair gel + a generous froth of aussie mousse. mix it all up until it’s massive slather of goo covering your hands and then run goo’d fingers through hair. flip and scrunch hair just a bit to get the curls going. if it’s a bit crunchy easy off the gel… or just scruch up any crunchy pieces and it’ll smooth out.
i HELLA hate my curly hair, but i’m too HELLA lazy to straighten it.
ps… no idea who the girlie is but she looks like a nina to me
Honestly, I never understood the concept of a minority-based fraternity or sorority. The racism we collectively are subjected to really gives us somewhat of shared experience, as it is. I’m not sure I want to spend time learning stupid handshakes and codewords beyond that.
My hair’s not really curly, more wavy, but I usually blow dry straight, and if I really want it to be wavy, I put some curly mousse (any brand, doesn’t really matter) in it, and french braid it loosely before I go to bed, while it’s still wet, then I take the braids out in the AM and viola, non frizzy waves. Not sure if this would work on truly curly hair.
HMF: Those two women at your work may be just enjoying the fact that they can look totally different from one day to the next, with minimal effort.
Honestly, I never understood the concept of a minority-based fraternity or sorority
My ex-Greek friends tell me that the real value of a fraternity or a sorority is in the wealth of networking opportunities it creates. It makes sense that minorities might derive the same sort of benefit from it. Certainly, the black Greek fraternities and sororities have recognized this benefit.
Bengali Chick: same advice as Shreepi with a difference…
I have non-frizzy almost Shirley temple curls but only after I style it this way. Shampoo and lightly towel dry. Pour a spoonful of hair oil in your palm (yes, the indian hair oil which comes from coconut, almond, amla, or a combination such as garnier ultra doux oil). Rub hands together and comb thru wet hair till sleek. Let airdry or use diffuser with cold setting. No, your hair won’t feel oily or heavy afterward. Dont use any of the chemically enhanced expensive ones. They don’t work better. Avoid smelly oils. There’s an art to this. Keep trying till you find the right combo of wet hair and oil. If you pull hair back in a tight ponytail afterward, it will dry soft and sleek. You wouldn’t believe the amount I’ve spent on different products before finding this method. Mousse is second best.
desishiksa: don’t you get a headache after going to sleep with wet hair? When I did that I couldn’t move my neck for a couple of days!
That doesn’t make intuitive sense. The professional benefits of fraternity membership only really would work if alums reach high level, managerial, executive type positions. These are usually closed off disproportionally to minorities.
These are usually closed off disproportionally to minorities.
I think you’re operating on the assumption that Greek houses exist only at “Big State U”. They also exist at the historically black colleges, where the houses wouldn’t be closed off to black people. That’s what I meant by “black Greeks”. Minority Greek houses also exist at “Big State U” and they exist precisely because certain minorities felt locked out of Greek culture, and the networking opportunities it offers.
I have observed (only anecdotally) that black Greeks go on to be fairly successful professionals (as do many graduates of the historically black colleges). Maybe they do go on to give a leg up to their fellow black Greeks.
I think HMF was referring to the glass ceiling, not frats being closed off.
Frats/sororities only seem to exist to give 17 year olds a sense of belonging once they’re on campus- not sure that networking/getting you a plum job 15 years down the line is how they sell themselves.
not sure that networking/getting you a plum job 15 years down the line is how they sell themselves.
It is, actually. In fact, that’s a significant aspect of recruiting. Also, people who become Greek often have family members who were also Greeks (grandparents, parents, older siblings), and these relatives are almost certainly telling future Greeks about the networking advantages of belonging to a Greek house.
Also, it’s usually a plum job 5 years down the line, not 15.
Something tells me that 17-year olds with the foresight to think about jobs 5 years down the line are unlikely to view being Greek as a big factor in getting them there. Then again, looks like you were Greek and my observations are just that.
Then again, looks like you were Greek and my observations are just that.
Nope. Wouldn’t have touched Greek life with a 10-foot pole.
It had no attraction for me, but I have Greek friends who have really benefited from it. What’s more, many of the 17-18 year olds who are attracted to the Greek lifestyle are definitely thinking about what it’s going to get them in the future (again, because of stuff that older Greeks in their social circle have told them). Once you get in, you’re a Greek for life.
Otherwise, why bother with all the pain of rushing? It’s a whole lot easier to adapt to a non-Greek setting anyway, and it’s not like you have to be in a frat or sorority to have fun in college. I’m not even sure the Greeks have the best parties anymore.
This may be true, but lots of people don’t believe it. How true it is depends on which college you attend, of course, and how much they have been ‘colonized’.
I have super frizzy hair – no curls, just frizz. The only way I can be out in public without scaring people is to use the evil flat-iron. My dream used to be to have a hairdresser follow me around constantly, armed with products, appliances and I guess, a generator. But lately I’m really tempted to just do a Sinead O’Connor as of old.
I was referring to the glass ceiling, that in the real world black people in the greek system don’t have access to high level positions any more proportionately than non-black greeks. And any black members of “normal” frats wouldn’t be networking with traditionally minority fraternity alumnus. Unless there is interfraternity networking as well as intra. But I doubt that would be inclusive of the minority frats.
Thats the thing, the “normal” frats (those that are non-ethnic in statement, ie mostly white) took the “minority” frats very existence as a thumbed nose, or even a flipped bird. Their reaction was, “what? we’re not good enough? you thinnk we’re racist? bla bla bla” I can’t see that attitude dissipating in the real world.
It depends on the campus. If its a big city, then usually no. Frats are actually more or less meaningless in a campus like Columbia. But in a small college town, say in some doohickey town upstate, then frats play a much larger role as they have more legacy there. They’re usually the beacons of “coolness” that all freshman flock to.
I usually just lurk, but i’m going to come out and say just a few words to the curly haired women here: apply leave in conditioner and finger dry.
All those with frizzy, curly, uncurly hair:
Here is a possibility: http://simplereduce.wordpress.com/2007/05/02/unshampoo/
I’m seriously considering it.
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Tash, my mistake– didn’t mean to delete you. Your comment was perfectly fine. Forgive an imperfect intern?
Since nobody has added any inputs on the identity of the “girl”, should we finally send the “all desis know each other” theory to the trash bin, once and for all. No one could identify the office 2007 girl either….
I’m trying this tonight girl…. I have spent a fortune on hair products! Much love too all of you and your tips!
Looking at this thread (and quite a few other recent threads), I have to say that civility seems to be returning to this blog…otherwise a thread like this had major potential to get closed by now. Hope I didn’t just jinx it all!
Geez, Amitabhji…someone run over a lemon or wave a chili in front of me already. 😉 Who needs the bad luck??
close yours eyes, fist full of salt circular rotation over SM’s head three times and then thrown in the street!!
Sorry ANNA. It’s just that things were looking a little bleak here a few weeks ago (the whole macho Korean mess, the trolling, the bickering, the fatigue that you bloggers were going through, some of us wondering how long this blog would last, etc.) So the relative absence of that lately has been refreshing…anyway, I’m jinxing this even more now, right? OK, I’ll shut up now.
I suggest John Freida’s Frizz-Ease hair serum. It comes in three different strengths. Conair, for such an inexpensive company, makes great flat irons to help control the frizz.
Living in New York, the girl in the ad looks like she could be of any of the ethnic groups I see living in New York; Brazilian, Puerto Rican, Dominican, South Asian, Somailian. I’ve met people who I swore were Desi and they were of other ethnic groups. If she is Desi, I’m glad to see her 😉
Curly gals – don’t bother with the zillions of products (believe me I’ve tried them ALL) – go get a DevaCurl haircut and have them show you how to manage your curls, however wimpy or wavy-curly-undecided-frizzy they may be. Trust me on this one. Hate to sound like an ad but after 15 years of products and bad haircuts and blowdrying and all that shit, I have finally reached Enlightenment. Give it a shot. There are still times when I’ll blowdry straight for a change but the biweekly dance of deep conditioning and leave-in products and the right hairdryer/straightening tool/brush is not one I miss.
The only product you’ll still need is an alcohol-free, mildly moisturizing gel to keep the curls frizz-free. Aura Hypoallergenic (from Sally’s beauty supply) is the one I love, after trying ’em all out. And a good conditioner – L’Oreal Nature’s Therapy or the drugstore one in the orangey red bottle for dry frizzy hair or Matrix Sleek Look all have practically identical ingredients and are all equally good. the Deva conditioner is identical too, but more pricey.
all good 🙂
i know they’ve got you working super hard in the bunker…hope they give you red bull to keep you monitoring all the posts!
All these great hair tips and I just shampooed/conditioned my hair 🙁
I’ll have to try them soon. Hair oil…hmm
Anna, why would we run over a lemon when apparently we can put it in our hair to reduce frizz? 🙂 Also, would you say “hella” if I “hella” bought you COHO next time you’re in Nor Cal? Please?!
BTW, I don’t know who the girl is, but I’d love it if one of us found out. I’d be kind of proud to see the “two degree” theory actually work for once.
From #42:
Doesn’t work that way. If I don’t take the time to condition and style my very straight hair, it clumps and separates into a stringy flat mess.
Oddly, I’ve often wished I had curly hair… so I could get up and go. Imagine just being able to work in some leave-in conditioner, instead of spending fifteen minutes under the blow-dryer. I know, I know, doesn’t work that way either. ^__^
Which is why, most days, I do the sloppy bun thing.
That should work for most normal people but for us Superfrizzies (my hair is frizzy even when its soaking wet!) we need either heavy duty technology or a return to the primeval basics. I’m going to give the no ‘pooing a shot and see how it goes. If I get fired for stinky hair I’ll let y’all know. Thanks for this really helpful post Anna. It got thread-jacked a bit but just know its been in a good cause. Bengali Chick, how did your hair oil expt go?
The world would be much nicer of a place without hair.
I don’t think I was fair to it. I fell asleep in wet hair and while I don’t have much friz my hair looks kinda crazy. Next time I’ll put in the oil and let it air dry instead of sleeping on it.
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Day 1 of not shampooing and conditioning my hair…I did rinse it and massage my scalp for a couple of mins while in the shower. I feel 2 itchy spots on my scalp…purely psychological I know. But for 20 years, I have shampooed and conditioned my hair everyday. The thought of all the chemicals I washed into the water makes me slightly sick.
I’m going to try to wait for atleast 2 more days before washing my scalp with baking soda and rinsing it with vinegar.
So far my curls and waves seem absolutely normal.
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Gotta second the DevaCurl thing — it has been truly revolutionary for my curls, and once you get used to it, it’s second nature. The other thing I suggest is this technique for drying your hair with a microfibre towel http://www.jessicurl.com/Demo/wmp/plunking.html. Looks weird, but you get results…
🙂 keep trying girlfriend and keep us updated.
Sadaiyappan, enough. This is a warning. Anna spelled out the following rather clearly:
no comments on skin color, weight, caste or anything else unnecessary, okay? Thanks.
oh i see now. its ok to ramble on about her hair, because somehow that is not a physical attribute.
oh, and for good measure – the MS gal was a fob reflection and the apple one an abd. chew on that bone, babes.
Hippiefob, what is your problem? Do you feel like getting in to a caste battle because the rest of us don’t. Sadaiyappan’s comment was out of line and your comments are all…weirdly pointless and negative, simultaneously.
One model is 1st gen and one is second? Seriously? Says who? What color is the sky in your world?
And unfortunately, we live in a world where hair is very necessary.
who said?
skin color is also unnecessary? Guess you pull the rug from under this site then, no :D?
hairisfair – ok blondie. lighten up. use some fair ‘n’ lovely.
Hippiefob, this site has discussed the “fairness” issue ad nauseum. Our community’s preoccupation with dark skin being undesirable is well-known, here and elsewhere. Perhaps you are new and missed those contentious, draining and hurtful debates, but we don’t really need to go down the “Fair and Lovely” road again.
The point of the caveat you are mocking was to discourage comments like, “she’s so dark/black” etc, which used to occur the second a female photograph accompanied a post, along with pointless commentary about how fat a woman was.
Hippiefob, if you don’t have something constructive to say…your comments will be deleted. You can ask someone to “lighten up” without abusively resorting to calling them “Blondie” or invoking a product many find repulsive.
ok SM intern. just for you, i’ll stop with the sarcasm now since its lost here anyway. like all good SM boys and girls, i will agree agree agree. only serious talks from now on. see, i’m totally desi fob, no? political correctness, not in my psyche. sorry for upsetting apple cart and all.
Ah, that familiar folderol, the last resort of the wounded, the shoulder-chipped. Everyone is welcome to disagree, as long as they aren’t obnoxious about it. There’s a difference between sarcasm and calling someone “Blondie”.
Ah, that familiar folderol, the last resort of the wounded, the shoulder-chipped. Everyone is welcome to disagree, as long as they aren’t obnoxious about it. There’s a difference between sarcasm and calling someone “Blondie”.
just for your future reference in your illustrious, non-traditional-career-for-a-desi career as a web moderator: moderators don’t fire back and name-call. here i was agreeing with your caveats, and you just want to poke back at me? poor strategy.
anyway, what’s wrong with blondie?
Skin color is inevitable, but no, not necessary.
As is your relentless trolling, which you’ve been cited for in the past. You’re the one who calls people names, but nice projection.
You see mutineers who may be watching and wondering, we don’t ban and delete immediately, we take past comments and behavior in to account first. And “HippieFob” is notorious for being disruptive and then complaining when called on it, all the while attempting to blame us for not getting “sarcasm”. What’s wrong with “Blondie” is the inherent insinuation that all Blondes are dumb, but you’re not looking for me to disambiguate that, you just want to pick fights. Well, do it elsewhere.
I have straight up curly hair, none of this in between stuff. And I have never (even wanted to) blow dry or straighten my hair. After years of pomades, oils, expensive as hell conditioners, mousses, gels, every brand and product I could get my CVS-happy hands on, I found the perfect thing: Dudley’s Fantastic Body Setting Lotion, recommended by Hairplay (Hairplay is an amazing salon in San Francisco which is the FIRST SALON EVER from which I didn’t have to exit to wash and redo my hair because they had just f*%#$ it up. They do curly hair right). Dudley’s is a magic blue liquid for which you have to find your own dilution scheme that will work best for your hair (my mix is 1:2, Dudley’s to water). With it, you can do straight, ringlets, scrunched, air dry, blow dry, diffuser, whatever you wish (I do ringlets and air dry). Frizz free and fabulous. It’s not cheap ($10/bottle?) but it lasts a year. I live lightly. Everything I own fits into a black hard case Samsonite, and you can bet a leakproof bottle filled with concentrate Dudley’s is in there.