It is well known that there is a growing unease between black South Africans and Indians in South Africa. How bad is it? A recent poll suggests that are large percentage of Indians there think that things were better during apartheid. From Rediff.com:
Despite their support for the ruling African National Congress, more Indians than whites in South Africa were unhappy with the present dispensation and prefer the former apartheid regime to the present democratic state, a survey by ANC has revealed.
The survey, conducted in the Guateng region (which has an Indian population of over 3,00,000) revealed that 37 per cent of Indian respondents replied in the affirmative when asked whether they prefer going back to the apartheid regime compared to 19 per cent of whites who made the same choice.
There is of course a lot of racial tension between the two groups:
The [poll] has made the ANC deduce that the “skepticism” of the Indian and coloured communities towards the government was due to the perception that before they were “not white enough and now they are not black enough.”
I remember hearing about a racist song out of South Africa not so long ago (2002) that was very popular.
A new song [2002] by renowned South African composer and producer Mbongeni Ngema is causing a racial stir — this time round between blacks and Indians. The song, “Amandiya,” which means “Indians” in Zulu, has lyrics describing the country’s Indian population as abusive to black people, and being more racist than whites.
Ngema’s song blames Indians for taking advantage of blacks. He denounces the influx of immigrants from the Indian subcontinent, who he says are flooding into South Africa, so much so that “a brave man is required to confront” them.
The song struck a wrong musical note with the country’s leading politicians and human rights activists, who are wary that the song could provoke racial hatred in a country that prides itself on its new commitment to multiracial cooperation after years of apartheid rule. As of June 19, it was removed from the public airwaves until further notice.
The survey, conducted in the Guateng region (which has an Indian population of over 3,00,000) revealed that 37 per cent of Indian respondents replied in the affirmative when asked whether they prefer going back to the apartheid regime compared to 19 per cent of whites who made the same choice.
Yeah, but this is the difference between actual preference and expressed preference. Like the percentage of people who’d say yes to being gay, the above numbers are almost surely a massive underestimate of the true numbers. Indians feel slightly more comfortable saying what they think, but that place is a thought police state where the ultimate crime is “racism” (an offense which includes any bald statement of the ethnic distribution of the criminals there).
We know that the actual preference is different from the expressed preference because there is an exodus of South African professionals in every field:
South Africa is headed for the same civilizational collapse as Zimbabwe.
In South Africa it will take longer as there are more whites to drive out. But it will accelerate as the flight of whites makes maintenance of the technological economy ever more difficult, leading to more economic decay, crime, etc.
Now, here’s a question for all the readers who are surely outraged by now…while the apartheid regime was considered evil, the current rate of 35000+ reported murders per year over the last decade is (officially at least) considered to just be a transient phase, or the “legacy of apartheid”. It’s not acknowledged that the explosion of violent crime might be a consequence of repealing apartheid. Note: this is not including the millions more unreported murders, rapes, armed robberies, assaults, etc.
Very few regimes are as universally denounced as apartheid South Africa – only the Nazis really come to mind. Even today you can find people defending Communists, Saddam Hussein, Al Qaeda, the Taliban, etc.
So here’s the question: does anyone have a figure for how many people the apartheid regime is supposed to have killed? Note that if you are going to mention the various proxy battles fought in Sub-Saharan Africa but not South Africa itself, you can’t pin all those on SA without acknowledging that the USSR was fomenting communist revolution in all those countries (and was backing the ANC through the Comintern).
So: how many of its own people is the apartheid regime supposed to have killed? I have never seen a figure, and a ballpark estimate would be useful in placing it in a pantheon of evil.
In particular, I would appreciate it if someone on the left could explain why apartheid is considered more evil than Communism, Saddam, Islamism etc. if the body count of apartheid turns out to be lower than those ideologies/rulers.
That’s a stupid argument. Apartheid is more evil than Communism because it violtaes a fundamental humna right that is repugnant in a very fundamental way. There is no logic of numbers to it. You can for instance maintain a perfectly evil regime without causing any deaths (some science fiction comes to mind).
The trouble that many newly liberated countries faces is one of governing institutions. That the stability of Apartheid is better than the instability of anarchy and breakdown of law and order does not mitigate Apartheid’s evil. Governing institutions need time and nurturing to develop. Western democracy wasn’t built in a day. Africa’s problems are many and pver-simplication by whacko leftists and whacko rightists do not help matters.
That’s a stupid argument. Apartheid is more evil than Communism because it violtaes a fundamental humna right that is repugnant in a very fundamental way. There is no logic of numbers to it
Uh, you don’t think the right to private property, the right to not be sent to a gulag, or the right to not be mass murdered is a “fundamental human right”?
Before you glibly say that the right to own private property isn’t a big deal, ask yourself whether you’d REALLY think a system that allowed the state to take the very clothes off your back and send you denuded of all possessions to a slave labor camp wasn’t “violating fundamental rights”. 100 million bodies don’t matter in your reckoning, I guess, because it’s not a “matter of numbers”.
There is a stupid argument being made here, but it’s not mine. You’ve really got to ask yourself whether or not racial discrimination is worse or better than mass murder of your own citizens by the millions.
Then you’ve got to consider why you’ll defend the mass murderers.
(btw, do you have any numbers on the body count of the apartheid regime?)
I have to agree. The argument comparing Communism to Apartheid is so far off they don’t even belong in the same paragraph. Yes, Communism usually turns out bad, but at least its fundamental beliefs don’t come from a place of hatred and bigotry. Communism is always poorly executed because it isn’t in human nature to live that way yet. We aren’t bees or robots (yet). Apartheid however starts with subjagation instead of inevitably ending up there. Let’s not get to far off the subject of this post however which is about S. Africa possibly turning into what Uganda was in the 60s
and just what breakthrough, praytell, in human nature modification are you hoping for?
Ideologies ought to be judged by their fruits. Apartheid was less destructive than communism.
I’m not an expert by any means about apartheid, but having experienced it, I can give MY views on it.
A little history: My parents are fourth generation South African. We are Indian. I was born in Dallas.
My cousins back ‘home’ are very racist, period. There is growing hatred amongst Indians for the African community that I find disheartening and am disgusted by it. I used to tell myself that ‘they were raised that way’ to excuse them for their behavior but I can’t do so any longer.
this isn’t knew, there is a long history of distrust between indians and africans. there were riots against indians by zulus in durban early in the century i believe, and gandhi considered the natives uncivilized ‘kafirs.’
I am India – born in South Africa, I disagree with the word “hatred” when used in the context of Indian racism against Blacks. I believe that Indian’s in this country suffer with a severe inferiority complex. It has a lot to do with being too black under the apartheid government and not black enough under the black government. I personally have a great love for this country, especially all the various cultures here, I do not share this inferiority complex with the others, therefore I feel as truly SOUTH AFRICAN as any other SOUTH AFRICAN.
I’m an Indian and I love African people.
Anyone that moves into Africa and then hates African people should get back to where they came from. South Africa is a beautiful country and so is its people. We need to learn from each other and stop trying to compare each race as to which is the most superior. War and hatred have never solved anything til this very day!
My forefathers were from South Africa. I was born in Singapore. According to my relatives there,da indians are treated no better by da africans themselves. They see us as people who have come to take over their country. They tend to be very agressive and stuff.
people come to south africa mainly because it is easy to make money. South Africa is not about white or black – its about rich and poor. the rich get rich of the sweat of the poor and the poverty gap is >>>>> having said that…u’d be hard pressed to find an indian businessman who does not exploit staff members – money breeds hatred – i hate this world
I was at an Indian embassy Diwali party in Jo’berg last year. The only black South Africans attending were staff (i.e. maids and drivers). The guests from what I could see were borderline (ok, over the line) rude and dismissive of the help. I saw Indians from South Africa, being class-ist(?) towards a white contractor who had been invited to join the teen-patti party after he had spent hours decorating the verandah for the party. Further, I heard the contractor ask the current embassy ‘first lady’ if she was going to ‘yell at him and the other staff’ like her predecessor did. manners, manners wot?
so maybe it’s not just a race thing as previously suggested, but a class thing.
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Juanita Balkisson
She wrote an article called Fuck Indianness
Hell, Indians are Black themselves!!
And I’ve seen too many Maharajahs that look like Jesse Jackson, too many Maharanis that look like Halle Berry!
why must the black man be in power?
I am a south african indian in the U.K, i have been living here for the past 6 years. I did not leave S.A for any other reason, but for personal education gain. I strongly despise nay form of racism. I grew up in end days of apartheid, therefore i didnot feel the full impact of this terrible era. Yes i would agree that there are indians, coloured and most definetly whites that would have prefered the stay of apartheid. I pity them. It would be great if they could live abroad and experience racism, the grass is not greener on the other side believe me. There is violence abroad as well. In south africa i have had 1 car stolen, hijacked once and have seen and contributed to violence, yet i still feel safer in S.A??? Yes under this goverment we are not black enough and early days not white enough. There is alot of change occuring in South Africa and us indians need to contribute to a positive change to reach equality for all. I look forward to the day i return to my country. I love white, olive, black, brown people. My wife is coloured and i love her to bits.
I STILL say it–INDIANS ARE BLACK, THEMSELVES!!!
@Blackie
Indians are naturally in-between white and black, without having either white blood or black blood, which makes them BROWN.
South Africa’s the best! Our children still have loads of respect for others no matter what the color of their epidermis is. They are the future of SA and it looks great!!
@ Canadian Desi and Blackie
Don’t you know that BROWN is just a light shade of BLACK?…Or black is a dark shade of brown, depending on your point of view.
Greetings all. I am half Ethiopian and half Eritrean but born and raised in the States. I’ve always been fascinated with South Africa due to its history and the diverse people, culture, and customs. As I researched more about South Africa, I’ve come across one startling thing. I have read that Gandi reportedly (who I’ve always respected and admired) was racist toward the black South Africans. Can anyone verify that for me? But anyway, fast forward to the 21st Century and post-apartheid still affects South Africa. It is similar to what most African countries who have struggled to adjust to post-colonialism. I do hope that South Africa realizes how special they really are to have a melting pot that no other African country can boast. Lately, the Black South Africans have been very inhumane towards the Indian South Africans and even Africans immigrants. I do hope for peace in that region and Africa in general. I can’t wait till the 2010 World Cup as it will be my first trip to South Africa. Long Live Mother Africa!
hi all, the Indians are more philosophical. There is one philosophy of Indians that I like to quote it fron Bhagavatgita… “We, as humans, have had no rights to choose our parents, our colour, our features, our birthday and our deathday. Then, the question is that what as humans we have right on. Thats the life that we live. And live it successfully”.
This philosophy can explain that the Indians are basically not racist. Indians neither like the culture of Whites nor the blacks as Indians have their own culture and the differences may have arisen out of these cultural intolerance rather than the racist feeling. As an Indian, if I find a white or black or indian living an indisciplined life, I will abstain from them and I dislike the free animal like living people. I will categorise them as Uncivilised and Gandhi might have described blacks as Uncivilised Kafirs as he has lived a principled life which is entirely opposite to the way the blacks living. Even now, blacks are not yet civilised in most part of the Africa. Their life style is indeed the cause of widespread of HIV. And the crime rates in South Africa is high in the post apartheid regime. What for the Apartheid reigime was opposed…is it to get killed by ourself? The governing was better in the apartheid regime. And the same administrative capacity is not with the post apartehid regime. It shows that the post apartheid regime is incapable of doing what it is supposed to do. Whats the alternative? May be the similar system like apartheid with enhanced equality of rights? There is a very need of think-tank to resolve the post apartheid regime’s failure. And it can only be done with the people those who are well trained at it. And they should not be neglected based on racial discriminations. If not, it will ultimately lead you to the destruction.
I am a fourth generation South African Indian and LOVE it to bits. Yes, there may be a few groups of people that are negative about the furture, but staying here in SA, one can only marvel at the unity amongst the different race groups. I was the first matriculant in the “Rainbow Nation” (1994) so I didn’t really feel the impact of apartheid but remember, the Nationalist Government kept all race groups separated, so obviously after we started “mingling” with each other, there was bound to be some friction, but thats all part of growing and learning to respect each. I will never leave SA for any place in the world, although I had many offers.
What objection do the South African Blackies have to be dominated by the Indian Brownies who are intelligent and would do good to the society?
Browny
Hi there. I’m south african of indian decent and i’m 21 yrs old. I LOVE south africa though I do tend to interact with mainly indian people but i do not ill-treat native south africans. I dont know but there’s something in me that only allows me to be most comfortable around my own race. I do have african friends but something’s just not there. i do have this desparate need to absolutely belong to the soil beneath my feet but when 80% of the country is native and your not, its a bit hard. Also, the africans still have some of their ancient culture and traditions and i wonder, am i entitled to it??
Btw during later days of apartheid every race had their own little government, the Indians had an organisation called the House of delegates. So africans did recieve some money during aparteheid. The House of delegates governed well and did not squander the money. So i can say the indian community worked hard and smart for what they have and not because whites treated them better.
I see many inter-racial couples, whites with indians, whites with africans and indians with africans. i myself have 2 african aunts.
Finally, give South Africa some time, she’s only 13 yrs old.
Lots of love Annie
I used to visit south africa often during my stay in Kenya on business trips. I found that most south african Indians have an attitude which was not friendly and to the point of being rude sometimes. It was clear that most blacks and whites have a very low opinion about south african Indians.
when you move from a place to another place, its natural to see differences. I recently moved from India to Namibia. I am going through lot of cultural shocks. I had a balck girlfriend and I could not take her way of living life. There is no seriousness about their life and they just want to live today and they have no thought of tomorrow. The family values are so low.This is a high contradiction to an indian like me. I loved my girlfriend and I was trying to explain her views but she is adamant not to understand. So I had to end the relationship. This is the reason why most indians do not mix with other races not only in Africa but in Europe and Americas…This is not racism based skin color but based on the culture. Also every human is culturally racist..a white south african women might find it harder to get along with a white australian or a british.A black man from a Zulu tribe find it harder to accept the lifestyle of a black woman from a Ghana or Nigeria or Kenya. So it is unfair to classify indians to be racist (as whites feel) but they are culturally distinct from other groups. A white woman will be disappointed if only she marries an Indian man without marrying his culture and value. So Lets not try to simply blame Indians for what they are doing without having a proper understanding anthropology of different humans.
South african Indians are racist. Period. At schools you get Indians that pretend to be your friend but when other Indians or white kids come along they get all cold and rude, as if they’re proving they’re better than you. Everywhere in SA i noticed that Indians have a tendency to suck up to whites and treat every other race with disdain
I find that Asians in general, and Indian in particular, due to their high family values, like Vijay points out above, have somewhat of a superiority complex.
It’s no mistake that Asians are as successful as they are when they are in the diaspora. A strong family background where two parents are present through the child’s entire life until one of them dies, sets a very firm ethical foundation for that child as an adult. That there is very little divorce amongst Asians and Indian in particular is something that is praise-worthy for the most part (although that also means rotten marriages continue to rot without any shift, in some cases).
The tight-knit family unit and the “duties” it requires from it’s members gives children a sense of “belonging” and “responsibilty” from a young age. It puts pressure on them to behave according to certain norms of their society. This tends to make the children quite sheltered from outside influences that could get in the way of their studies and career goals – such as un-planned for children. They are left with alot of time to focus on their family’s goals for them. All of this contributes to their success in the diaspora. It sometimes can also contribute to a sense of “superiority” when they see other people slacking off in the areas of ethics, education, family, etc.
I’m not justifying their superiority complex, but I am saying that on a few points they may have a valid point in not wanting to mix closely with people who do not hold such high ethical standards, whether they come from a similar or different ethnic group.
So, to mix or not to mix, are you saying that blacks and coloureds do not have high ethical standards and that only Indians and whites do? Hello!!! In India, the country of your origin, people emigrate because they’re tired of being stolen from. So you can’t say Indians have high ethical standards. THEY DO NOT. Case in point is the fake rip-offs that Indian shopowners sell to the unsuspecting public
Yet again, it comes down to the financial class. Any person, be they black, white or brown will forego their ethics to survive. Therefore you have the high crime rates in developing countries and in communities which have not had proper access to education or are not able to compete effectively for resources. Family and cultural values do play a part but that varies from individual to individual.
Attitudes are born from contexts in place, time and circumstance. Lots of shibboleths in the comments above imagine a tendency once exhibited hold true for all time. The idea of currying up to whites is from the time before this when whites demanded curry and rice treats from their Indian employees as a bribe to be on their (whites) good books. Is that true now? Hardly. Indians wouldn’t back the Proteas with Smith and his ilk cursing their India Indian counterparts.
Indians are not a homogenous mass. Two types still prevail: the Guju Muslim merchants class who played politics,joined the ANC, got into government and exercised a freer consciousness than their indentured (read Tamil/Bihari) counterparts. The offspring of the indentured never read politics, never played it, never took a revolutionary stance and generally took the lethargic path to subsistence. Of course exceptions can be counted: the brilliant Mac Maharaj, the steadfast Naidoos, the rare Billy Nairs and Jay Naidoos, the Raj Bhansis, the J.N Singhs….they liberated themselves from the thrall of the indentured consciousness and played politics. Some like Raj Bhansi blatantly put forward Indian interests, others like Mac Maharaj went communist and staunchly believed that all were equal in the Communist Party and the ANC. Later of course he realised his folly and went AWOL and joined the ranks of the bulging bourgeoisie making oodles of money. He can be seen as a ‘double traitor’…traitor to the indentured consciousness and traitor to his communist beliefs. He is a rare breed of a man this phansigar.
Today, those two types of SA Indians still prevail. And they’re not at all buddy-buddy. The merchant types still financially and caste-wise attach to India (Ratnagiri, Nasik, Gujerat); the Tamil/Bihari have no roots at all in India. Their forefathers came as an alienated caste from India and put down roots in South Africa unable to recall where they had uprooted themselves from India. Unlike the Guju Muslim merchants they possessed no capital, no property and had a bonded consciousness.
What do they do in a country where the threat to them is real enough? They do not have the werewithal to migrate to distant shores. They do not have the guts to politically become active. They still exhibit indentured cowardice. The Pentecostal Church with HQ in Kentucky and Jerusalem has rich pickings from this lot. The descendants of the Guju Muslims identify with Muslim culture and civilisation. The conservative Hindu descendants of the indentured identify with Hindus against Muslims and Islamic Terrorists.
Racism? Survival politics flowing from indentured consciousness turned them in fear to the ruling side…the white side. Now survival politics dictates that their Arya Samajs, Tamil Vedic society, Andhra Sabas look to the native Africans who have not reaped the benefits of liberation. But instead of songs that sing of their changing consciousness Mbongeni Ngwena’s ‘Amanindya’ speculates on a brave man (an African without doubt) to confront them.
How can blacks reap the benefits of liberation in these corrupt times? Only Indians have benefitted because they’re natural crooks as Ngema’s song attests
Until I came to southern part of Africa, I have never realised that the discrimination is based on skin colour. Though in India, there are differences based on caste, religion and class, most of the population do not go through discriminations. Life is more of career thinking and education. There is a disciplined way of living in most of the population. In most cases, it is hard to find a poor girl to succumb to rich man’s desires.I have never heard of the word “SUGAR DADDY” and “SUGAR MOMMY” when I was in India. But in Namibia, I hear it as an issue. In particular, the black girls are the main sufferers. One must understand that it is due to low morals and desire to live the comforts as parasite.It is history that Indians were also colonized by British al most two centuries. But the indian way of living was not shattered by British culture. But what happened to Black people and coloured…the philosophy of ” Life is short and live it fully” has been understood by these people in a wrong way that they are in to alcohol and sex. Women have lost their pride. When I was talking to a black girl student, she describes herself as a “WHORE” which is evident that she has low-esteem about herself.It may not apply to all the black women.But most of them are like this. At the age of 16, a girl is telling that she can not live with out sex. Her understanding of life is to be counselled. It is a great wonder in this country if a man lives without a women for an year of time. And people ask you what’s your problem? Where as among Indians, such behaviour will be highly adored. In a party, i met with a pregnant women who is smoking and drinking with out thinking of how would it affect her child? Such irresponsible women are not available in Indian community. Indians are smart and intelligent. They work harder to get what they deserve to get. Thats why they respect themselves and feel superior. If other communities have problem with it, its not their problem. One cannot push their incapacity in attaining a better standard of life on blaming Indians as racist. A black woman likes to date an Indian man only because they are found responsible and thoughful of their family. They dont think that they are man enough if they have so many woman, but they feel proud to be a man by protecting his family and seeing their children progress. People from other community must try to learn from them.If you cannot learn, dont blame their way of life. If someone is jealous of Indians being rich and progressive,it is their problem but not Indians. So one must think what they must do to reach their goals(if there are any..), or else suffer the consequence of your way of living. I met with a old coloured man who lived in SA. He told me that the Indians who pushed a carts on the roads to sell those days, are millionaires now and he reallty admired the hardworking nature of indians. They have a kiosk and the whole family is working in it. He said that Indians have inspired him as most of their business is family business. So,people who read this page must understand that there is nothing that will happen to anyone unless they perspire to achieve it. I am proud that I am an Indian and I dont like to be framed as racist by someone who has no capacity to face my smartness and intelligence.
DisgustedColoured said:
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DisgustedColoured, your statements simply illustrate how racist you are. Think about it. If this is the attitude Indians in South Africa face, I’m not surprised they prefer to disassociate from blacks.
PS. I’m an Indian who has never interacted with a black person in his life; simply never met one. But your statements will remain in my memory. Thanks.
What a good distraction.. But I will not be drawn into an argument on whether I’m racist or not. But just for the record, I am not. I was just stating facts
DisgustedColoured wrote:
Umm, ohhkay..
Vijay, the regulated and disciplined lifestyle of many Indians is something to be admired, I agree. However, I’m surprised to hear that such behaviour as written above is found in Africa. Were it written about the US, I would not be surprised, but I thought that African people in Africa were much more in touch with their cultural roots and traditions. I’m surprised to hear that they are living largely undisciplined and directionless lives.
Disgustedcoloured. U r racist and u can go fu@k urself.
So you think I’m racist? Whatever. This thread here is to debate whether South African indians prefer apartheid or not. Instead of confronting the topic you point fingers and say I’m racist. Apartheid actually served the needs of Indians. Indians aren’t known to marry or even mix with other races so the separation of races didn’t affect them at all. And, Indians were at the top of the totem pole just under whites in receiving basic services. All that has been taken away. So I say Indians do prefer apartheid
29 · Milind said
Many of my Black African and West Indian friends have reiterated the same.
I am originally from India and Singapore and have lived and worked in South Africa before and after transition. Depends on who you talk to. Some Indians such as the film director Maghanthrie Pillay and her cousin the hip hop dancer Candice Pillay are pretty militant and consider themselves black and are essentially anti-Afrikaner if not outright anti-white South African. However, like many Indians, a majority of the South African Indians, particularly the females long to be white and use skin whiteners and other crap. I guess the Indian South Africans have forgotten the day when they got beaten up entering the wrong toilet or rounded up by white coeds in college as a part of ragging rituals (although universities were segregated) and forced to eat white girl’s feces. Believe me, I was there as part of an international organization when this happened back in 1988. May be the South AfricanIndians, particularly the South African Indian women want to return to the days of eating Afrikaner female feces.
what about the doctors in south africa public service are there any indians and what about their living conditions and safety
it is indeed an interesting question and effectively a controversial one it is important to think properly before giving views and to eliminate all cultural and self centred bias to eliminate racial beliefs just for this time and look deep into the issue, attempt to give both sides of the story
whether south african indians prefer apartheid or not, the truth is on one hand, yes SEVERAL indians prefer it, only and only those who believe that it would serve them well and take their interests into consideration better than what the current ANC government is doing for them. And of course Indians who think only for themselves as a racial group, those who do not feel affected when they see a man of another colour and race being menaced, obviously they do not have humanity and sympathy, then obviously this group of Indians prefer apartheid
on the other hand, South african indians who do not want to rank their spirits with the barbarous multitudes of their own, do not prefer Apartheid. those who have real human hearts of humanity, peace and love in the world regardless of colour, race, language, class, culture and historical background, and obviously those who feel that the current south african government treats them bether than the Apartheid government, thats logical, those who currently have good posts in the south african government are not interested in the come back of Apartheid
i am a black journalist currently working in France but going to work back in south africa in May i have a south african indian collegue here but i do not care bout her race and her origin, she is a south african just like me and even if she prefers apartheid or not,,i would not generalise the experience
please,i see that some of you are just attacking each other with the influence of race, cultures and origins, lets have sound and sensible, constructive and beneficial arguments to solve our problems
i believe that some of you are still young and do not really analyse things before they talk, an argument is not a personal fight, try to be objective and intellectually fair
Thalukanyo, Orleans France
41 · Rice and Peas said
I am an indian South African and i moved to the UK to work for a while. If you think South Africans are racist then you very wrong the british who started slavery and started colonzing every other country are the biggest racists especially in the work place. They just think Indians are submissive and should just listen and tolerate them.
I have now moved to the Middle East and see the otherside of things the Indians are mainly from India here but the uneducated ones like maids and waiters etc just suck up to white people and forget serving their own kind out here. If Indians are ever to succeed and move forward in life i guess they should just become more assertive and ask for more money so that they dont ruin their own name and their future generations. Indians should be proud from where they came from and their own culture. They shouldnt put on british or american accents.Just be yourself.
everybody is racist in this world some are more ignorant then others. Dont be ignorant open your eyes and see whats happening around you.The truth is the most important thing.
Indians are not the only ones facing South African black racism in South Africa. Other black Africans face it as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMPHSQVAJkk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcPpTrlI6ek&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2StsuuoCDdM&feature=related