Abhi and I have both independently been thinking about the same problem, but we’ve come to slightly different solutions. Imagine for a second that Representative King and conservative talk show host Mike Gallagher and other wingnuts are right. Maybe it’s time to overcome our politically correct scruples and embrace overt profiling of all Muslim males. Maybe what we need is a screening policy that makes sure that every single Muslim male is scrutinized, and not one gets by without close examination.
How would we implement this?
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p>None of those in favor of the plan have thought about implementation. For example, this is what one Republican congressional candidate said:
“Well, you know, if he comes in wearing a turban and his name is Mohammed, that’s a good start” [Link]
Yeah riiiiiight. That would be around as effective as looking for men with “Terrorist” signs around their neck.
King calls for special treatment of all travellers of Middle Eastern or South Asian origin, but that clearly would be insufficient to accomplish his goals. 25% of all Muslims in America are black, and his plan ignores all of them. There have also been several serious plots involving both South East Asian Muslims and African ones, so we would need something far more extreme than the wimpy measures King suggests.
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p>No, if we’re going to be real men about this, we have to overcome our squeamishness, adapt a rigid approach and realize that all Muslim men have only one physical attribute in common – they’re all circumcised.
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That’s right – I think there should be one line for men with foreskin, and another for men without. Uncut males get expedited boarding, while the circumcised get extra scrutiny.
If we think about the global population, there are only a few types of men who are circumcised: Jews, Muslims, certain African ethnic groups, and North Americans. Really, a minority of the world, but one that encomasses all Muslim men.
Certainly there will be false positives, but we already accepted that when we agreed to screen all Muslims. If you’re truly innocent, then this should be hardly any skin off your nose.
I say it’s time for all circumcised Americans stand up straight and make a small sacrifice for national security. What say you?
BTW all Israelis are conscripted at some point
quibble: not israeli arab christians and muslims (druze are, at their request).
Ikram – Like I said – there are no “clinical evidence”. The study you refer to is very elementary. From what I have read, at the most it points to a possible co-relation, which could be due to by many other factors as well. Since I am not an expert, I wont denounce it, but for example I am curious about causality for example – Circumcised men are more likely to be muslim, who in turn are more likely to have fewer casual sexual partners. I believe this is the case in countries like Nigeria, where there is big difference between mulim and cristian populations in terms of aids.
The article you quoted also says these things –
Trials are underway in Africa to determine more conclusively whether the two are linked.
While former U.S. president Bill Clinton has said circumcision could have a “staggering effect” on controlling HIV, De Cock* said more research must be done before the WHO recommends circumcision as a prevention tool.
It’s injudicious in public health to base major recommendations on the results of one study,” De Cock told a news conference at the international AIDS gathering Thursday. “If this is recommended, we must be very, very careful that this doesn’t cause harm and it’s done safely.”
A previous study has shown men who were circumcised did not “engage in more risky sexual behaviour,”
Re: Gayatri mantra. What I am reading here seems to be a North/South divide. It seems anecdotally at least that average Northern Hindus are more familiar with it than the average Southie Hindu. Among Southern Hindus, it seems to be more a brahmin vs non issue.
Also, South Asian guys can get play there. Just tell the sabras you’re a Cochin Jew, they will either hug you and say “my brother!” or take you home.
FINALLY! A way to exploit this mallu heritage. =D
Was at Cairns airport yesterday in Australia and was stopped for a Random Explosive test for my Hand Baggage. I waited for some time to see how Random was Random sampling or to check if i was targeted if i was South Asian (Indian). As i observed from some distance they stopped an East Asian Man, East Asian Female, White Female, White Bikkey Male. So i guess was Random Afterall
Samir,
Muslims come in all shapes and sizes so is it possible that they’re stopping only Muslim passengers.
No one’s linked the Slate column on male circumcision saving lives?
Circumcision makes males mean as is does women. If circumcision is healthy for men then it must be super healthy for women because they produce a ton of smegma and moisture, much more then men ever could. So why not circumcise them? The genital mutilation hipocracy of the cultures!
Notice that all nations where most men are circumcised are allso the most violent of Nations!!!!
Circumcision is for making the MD’s your Doctor rich, he then also sells ther scin to burn wards to grow skin cell sheets, also sells forskins for cosmetics testing.
Forskins are a big huge business! They charge you $200 to chop it of, but if you were to recreat a true on, you would need advanced technology from Stargate’s the ancients and cost billions. As a forskin produces exceptional unique pleasures, that are lost when choped!
Circumcision is ment to de nude and lessen the sextual pleasure.
Also natural men’s women do not need lubricants to reduce friction.
See Sex-Lubricants are a big business only if enough men are denude of the skin!
God is not stupid, God did not make a Forskin by mistake!
That is so Cool & True!
God made eyes so you can see, but we only need one eye to see!
Shall we Circumcise one eye as it will reduce you chance of eye cance and STD’s of the eye by 50%!!!
Answer, 2 eyes are for sterio vision, althout that is not as important as mono-vision over no vision.
God made 2 ears for hearing, but we only need one, so circumcise one ear off , you Bill Clinton you! As that will reduce skin cancer of the ear by 50%, and cut the chance of ear infections!
Hum I know why 2 ears are their!
God did no make the Forskin by mistake!
FORSKIN is there to protect the WOMAN from sex-Friction burns and micro tears that lead to easy infections.
FORSKIN produces anti-microbial agents that scientists are trying to synthisise to fight antibiotic resistant germs. These Forskin bio-agents fight 3 things at once fungi, bactieria and viruses. No other known body part produces such 3 level agents.
Mans benifit is also more sensitive glance, like a baby’s but, or a musicians gloved hands that can feel fine texture, but a brick layer cant feel much of the finner things just like the dulled circumcided dick head.
I’m surprised no-one mentioned this, but it is fairly well documented that in Germany, pre and during WW2, Nazi thugs roaming he streets were not averse to stripping suspected Jewish males to obtain proof of ethnicity.
To all of you non muslims
it doesn’t matter if you like it or not.The final line is that if you cut the foreskin off your children,then you will benefit and it’s up 2 you if you want it or not this is the best option if you don’t like it then it’s up 2 you nobody is forcing anyone to do anything.
it’s easy to disagree with Islam but if you do then you will never be happy,you will always know there is something missing in your life and that Is beliefe in Allah(God)
by the way I am Muslim (Sunni)
and Also I want to say thanks to all of that commented.
I wouldn’t lump all North Americans in this category. Most Canadians aren’t circumcised (though the rate is still higher than in most of the rest of the non-Muslim/Jewish world, where the procedure is rare) and about 60% of Americans are, a rate that’s falling quickly, due to the fact that more people realize the “health” issue is completely bogus and was just an excuse to rationalize a short-lived cultural fetish.