A month ago the Washington Post reported that:
Nearly half of the nation’s children under 5 are racial or ethnic minorities, and the percentage is increasing mainly because the Hispanic population is growing so rapidly [Link]
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p>This news sent the right-wingnuts into conniptions [Thanks Saheli]. The next day, John Gibson, the host of Fox News’ “The Big Story” told his (largely white) viewers to:
“Do your duty. Make more babies… You know what that means? Twenty-five years and the majority of the population is Hispanic.” [Link] [Video clip].
He later stuffed his foot further into his mouth by “explaining” that he was not bigotted against Hispanics, but instead, against Muslims (and all non-Christians by implication):
“My concern was simply that I didn’t want America to become Europe, where the birth rate is so low the continent is fast being populated by immigrants, mainly from Muslim countries, whose birth rate is very high … I said … it was also a good idea if people other than Hispanics also got busy and have more babies. Those people would include both blacks and whites. I suppose Asians, too… 50 years from now, Europe will be brown and Muslim, and America will be brown and Christian. I am fine with that, America, and I’ve said so many times. I’d rather live with the Christians here than live … under Sharia law in Europe” [Link]
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p>Notice his ambivalence about Asians, even though he’s probably thinking of the yellow kind, many of whom are Christian. What might he feel about the brown kind, many of whom are neither Christian nor Muslim? And will he have a heart attack if he sees the latest brilliant inaccuracy from the TOI which states that:
The Indian diaspora is estimated at 20 billion. [Link]
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p>As Manish points out, “the earth’s population is around 6.5 billion today,” which means the desi diaspora is over 300% of the world’s population. Getting scared yet, Mr. Gibson?
The moral of the story? Get your news from an accurate source and you’ll sleep at night 
Just to put the facts in place, the word Hispanic means “related to Spain” and not to native Indians.
But the Government has made it illegal for the hospitals to turn away people who have no health insurance! It’s people like me and you who pay for those rifraffs.
First of all thats not entirely correct. The states now are free to make their own laws when it comes to hospitals refusing treatment. Some states have now allowed the hospitals to refuse treatment.
Second, and the more important point is that even when the laws prohibit hospitals from refusing treatment, the hospitals do not have to accept anyone unless there is an emergency. Also even if there is an emergency and the hospitals cannot refuse treatment, the patient is still billed for the treatment. So if the person who is given mandatory treatment due to his emergency cannot pay his bills, he goes under and has to deal with bill collectors for life and in a lot of cases this leads to bankruptcy. If the person does not pay the debt, the cost will eventually be transferred by the hospitals to other patients not unlike the case where when you fail to pay your credit card debt, mortgage on house, car loan or any other debt which is eventually passed on to other customers. That is why in Ma they are now trying to have everybody pay a certain minimum to cover the cost of such emergencies.
So the eventual cost transferred on to people like you and me is pretty minimal.
Since when are illegal immigrants who jump the fence to give birth here part of the group above?
Nobody jumps the fence to give birth. This ‘anchor baby’ argument is prima facie fucking ridiculous. Dropping a child in the US does not guarantee the parents anything. You can still get deported for being out of status, whether you came here illegally to begin with or overstayed your student visa, didnt find a job after your H-1/2 expired or went out of status for whatever reason. The fact that you have an American born baby will not make any difference, practically speaking, in your deportation hearing. Of course there is an ‘exceptionally hard circumstances’ exception, but it is narrowly applied and almost never granted unless the American citizen child has some disease which kicks in when the child crosses the American border.
Of course you can continue to stay illegally in the US for another 21 years till your baby grows up and reaches the age of 21 and sponsors you for legal permanent residence status.(American citizens over 21 years old can sponsor their parents) If you are living illegally in the US for over 21 years there are other avenues of becoming a permanent resident so you dont need this avenue anyway. Also, who plans 21 years ahead anyway!
Now having an American citizen child does get you certain government freebies for the child but you would get them anyway even if your child was born outside the US.
So the eventual cost transferred on to people like you and me is pretty minimal .
Nice try, Mujahidi. Actually the US goverment (ie taxpayers) pays for medicaid, lock, stock, and barrel.
But Hispanics do pay into the system in another way . Can we imagine the price of tomatoes without these workers?
Anyway, A more relevant question for indians is not the hispanic bomb, but the islamic demographic bomb . just today, lahore’s last hindu temple was demolished under some or the other paki pretence . same is very much possible in lucknow tomorrow given the persistent muslim desire to takeover remnant india.
Just to put the facts in place, the word Hispanic means “related to Spain” and not to native Indians.
Just to add to facts, hispanic is a rather loose term in what it includes under it’s umbrella, or can embrace. But, we know that people from Spain want no part of being classfied as “hispanic”. Indeed, to a couple I recently met, it was an insult of sorts.
I am a teacher and would love your thoughts on the following: My school has significant Hispanic, West Indian and East Indian Population(a solid bunch of Sikh kids, though I think hispanics are the majority. In my four years of teaching at this school, I have seen more discriminatory behavior against East Indian kids(especially against the ones with turbans)by Hispanics, than I have seen anywhere by anyone at any time. It is unbelievable. Some of these kids are recent immigrants from DR/Mexico/Ecuador and barely speak any English at all, but they sure learn enough words to make fun of recent Indian immigrants, and in some cases physically attack them, as was the case with some Panjabi kids.
How do we explain this? What’s going on? I’m at a loss. I do find that many of these kids are terribly ethnocentric, and come into a world where they are sort of a majority, and they are doing exactly what some in the majority have done to minorities in the past.
And the difference between how first generation Indian girls are raised compared to Hispanic, is just stark. One’s very conservative and the other can be overtly sexual. But, that’s another matter.
I’m curious– how much do you think you’re personally paying for those “rifraffs”?
The Conservatives in this country have built a narrative where all the tax dollars go to supporting a ‘lavish’ lifestyle of black single mothers and ‘laziness’ of baby dropping Mexicans. In reality less than 1% of the Federal Taxes go towards ‘Welfare payments’. The bulk of the federal tax dollars go towards financing the military, social security, medicaid and medicair payments.
“Simple. Turn them back from the hospitals. When some women end up giving birth next to a garbage dump, screaming, with placenta strewn everywhere, others will learn a lesson that the State will not support their ways. When some un-insured heart-attack patients are turned back because of lack of immigration documents, the rest will simply go back with the message that America is not good for free-loading anymore”
As hard as I’m trying, I can’t get over that image. And as to the argument that women who can’t afford healthcare shouldn’t have children…eugenics anyone? Health insurance is terribly expensive and many middle class families (yes the ones with both parents present)can’t afford them. My parents couldn’t afford it and I got through a lot of infections using antibiotics touted back from India. I guess they shouldn’t have had kids though. And when did government get detached from compassion? At its best, government would be an expression of community and a community cares for its own. And yes illegals and the poor are also part of our own. Hell, half of the houses being built right this second in Texas are being built by illegals. Instead of turning them away from schools and advocating they have their children in alleyways, how about turning them away from jobs? That would certainly work better no? Oh but right, the houses wouldn’t be so goddamn affordable if we did that.
Nice try, Mujahidi. Actually the US goverment (ie taxpayers) pays for medicaid, lock, stock, and barrel.
No, actually you are wrong. You need to be either a US citizen or a permanent resident in the United States to get medicaid. So illegal Mexican aliens are not eligible for Medicaid. Of course if they have kids who are US citizens, they would be eligible for Medicaid, but the illegal alien parents would still not be eligible.
What’s next? Someone saying the 9/11 widows are enjoying their husbands deaths?
Oh, wait…
paging a..doctor?
Isn’t it unethical for doctors to turn away patients?
Before some moron brings up Medicare, only people over 65 (in most cases) are eligible for Medicare.
Lets keep it civil here. We should all refrain from getting personal.
Taz, I’m kinda sorta working on being a doctor, does that count? We had a lecture on this, and the only clear answer the prof gave was that you couldn’t turn away a person if it was an emergency case (childbirth counts). He hasn’t been practicing for a long time now, just teaching and he told us it would probably be explained better later. So, I give a half-assed answer 🙂
Al mujahid, “personal” is important – as I said, not trying to offend, just hoping for some self-reflection from such posters. This must be examined when dissected one’s views – how can you separate the two? This is the fundamental hypocrisy on much of the right that must be unwound.
Federal Tax dollars spent: 18.0%: Defense 21.8%: Social Security 11.4%: Medicare 7.6%: Medicaid Interest: 7.1% Veterans: 2.6% Welfare:0.8% IRS: 0.5% Foreign Aid: 0.8% Education: 2.5% Justice: 1.1% Various Federal Agencies: 22%
I didn’t. Go back and reread.
We are simply going in circles.
You don’t know me from shit where is the concept of trust coming from. I’m confused.
At least you admit it. I don’t consider any of your emotional rants worthy of response because you choose to personally attack me.
This post is about Gibson on SM. If you have something to say about a post on my blog I suggest you post there and don’t treadjack here. And may I suggest get a grip on yourself. Jeez.