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It is these I.D.-creationists who are leading the current barrage of anti-evolution lawsuits… They have found enthusiastic allies among the Hare Krishnas… who have been actively propagating their theory of “Vedic creationism”, “Krishna creationism”, or “Hindu creationism”, as it is sometimes called…
Earlier this year, the Hare Krishnas filed an amicus curiae brief supporting I.D.-creationists… Hare Krishnas appealed to the court to keep the anti-Darwinian warning stickers. As the stickers only attack Darwin without endorsing a specifically Christian God, Hare Krishnas see them as an opportunity to introduce Vedic creationism into American schools. They know that once one religion gets its foot inside the door, all others will automatically get equal time to bring in their own creation stories and cosmologies into science classrooms in America. [Link]
The ID’ers don’t mind since it gives them multi-culti camouflage:
`I.D.’ is often accused of being a scientific-sounding cover for Christian creationism. The ID-ers conveniently use the support of Hare Krishnas to paint themselves in multicultural colours. Prominent I.D. theorists (Philip Johnson, Michael Behe) and some Catholic creationists have endorsed Vedic creationism. Any enemy of Charles Darwin is their friend… [Link]
ISKCON creationism sounds just as nutty as the ID’ers:
The intellectual force driving Vedic creationism is a pair of American Hindus, Michael Cremo and Richard Thompson, both resident “scientists” of the Bhaktivedanta Institute, the research wing of ISKCON. Cremo recently published a huge book, Human Devolution: A Vedic Alternative to Darwin’s Theory… While Cremo insists he is offering a “scientific” alternative to Darwin, almost all of his evidence comes from paranormal phenomena, including studies of extra-sensory perception, faith-healing, reincarnation and past-birth memories, UFOs (unidentified flying objects) and alien abductions…
But here’s the kicker: instead of believing in the fundamentalist Christian idea of a 6,000-year-young earth, the Hare Krishnas believe in yugas, and that humans have been around for two billion years. So the political allies start with a fundamental contradiction from day one.
… Cremo and Thompson accept the notion of the “day of Brahma” lasting some 4.32 billion years as literally true. They also accept as fact the idea that the “current day of Brahma” began two billion… years ago. A literal reading of the Ramayana convinces them that humans and monkey-like hominoid creatures coexisted… they come up with the fantastic notion that the ancestors of modern human beings have existed for two billion years. They want us to believe that human beings walked the earth at a time when fossil records show that only bacteria existed on the earth. [Link]
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p>I love the mind-expanding Vedic concept of time. In a dialogue with most religions, it sounds like it was written by Topper:
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Thanks for this comunication center . we need devlopment for yadhavas so we need yadhava peoples comunication addresses , mail IDs.Yep, the Hare Krishnas can make anything sound ridiculous. They make the best puri-aloo though.
I like the Hare Krishna movement. To me, they represent some of the best that came out of the sixties – an outburst of consciousness, put to action. Of course, action creates re-action. Especially when left without clear instructions from the Acharya, a movement is vulnerable. As mentioned above, there luckily is a lot of wisdom to fall back on. My concern is, will ISKCON be able to keep itself up to date? The intelligent design issue is a good example. I find it courageous of scientists like Michael Cremo and Amit Goswami to build scientific theories that take into account the Vedic scriptures. (if you don’t know Amit Goswami, check out The Visionary Window, and if you don’t know the Vedas, check out Wikipedia) I think we should focus on the content and context. A discussion is not served by quoting fragments that appear to destroy the arguments of another person or linking to a site. I think Veda inspired scientists should also have their work peer reviewed and use the same rules for trying to prove their theories, just like any other scientist. In the case of Cremo and Goswami, I know they do and that they are welcome in the best universities worldwide. At the same time Western scientists should be open for approaches that question certain aspects of what ‘the scientific establishment’ happens to believe is right. Evolution theory still has a lot of gaps in it. Why not concentrate on finding explanations? Remember how Einstein used to work?
Meera Nanda, Ugh.
Jerks, jokers…. debating on a subject about which very little is known / understood by them…. before jumping to conclusions and forming views, please read more on the subject, listen with open minds… and MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS…. worry about your progress, growth and salvation…. Love you all 🙂
Hey guys. How about a link to somewhere with a decent primer on what the Hare Krisna’s spin on ID has to say and the evidence why its bogus. Cheers