In a grand jury filing two weeks ago, D.C. prosecutors revealed that Jayant Kadian confessed to killing his mother:
The 20-year-old Great Falls resident told a Fairfax County detective that the tension between them escalated after he was arrested in connection with marijuana possession a third time… his mother, Kiran V. Kadian, told him she wanted him to see a psychiatrist, he told police… “He said at that point, he picked up a butcher knife out of the butcher block, and he said, ‘I . . . axed her. It was weird.’ ”… Kadian stabbed or slashed his mother 23 times in the neck and seven times elsewhere… he said… he stabbed her once from behind and she dropped to the floor, Allen said. “I wanted to kill my mother real quick,” Allen quoted Kadian as saying. “I did my best to make it quick.” [Washington Post]
There’s a special pit in hell reserved for this guy, who allegedly did the deed while she was making him food:
KADIAN’S MOTHER, 52, was preparing food for her son when she was murdered, according to testimony from Allen, a homicide detective. When Allen arrived at the Kadian’s house, an untouched plate of food remained on the kitchen counter above her body which was surrounded by a pool of dried blood…Kadian thought the purpose of meeting with a psychiatrist was to place him in a 28-day inpatient treatment center, according to Allen, who said Kadian didn’t want to go… after the murder, Kadian washed the knife, placed it on the dining room table and went upstairs to get $4, shoes and socks and to put a Band-Aid on two cuts he suffered during the stabbing. He set the alarm to the house and drove to the Great Falls Shopping Center, where he parked behind the CVS Pharmacy, according to Allen. Later he drove back by the house and saw the police cars and “decided he wasn’t ready to be caught and drove to James Madison,” Allen said… [The Connection]
Jayant Kadian was reportedly psychotic, depressed and suicidal (and now murderous), which makes getting busted for pot the least of his problems:
… Dr. Kadian told 911 dispatchers that he believed his son might be responsible for the murder, and that Jayant Kadian was suicidal, had psychotic tendencies and suffers from depression. “Jayant has also shown violent tendencies in the past and has threatened his mother and father with violence…” [The Connection]
I’m torn between wanting to understand his mental illness vs. simply wring his neck. Utterly horrific.
Anna’s previous post here.
Do both. So he’s psychotic. What prevents him from being strung up?
I hope he burns in hell.
sick bastard. i hope the rest of his family recovers.
Im not so up on my blog- saviness so i dont know how to hoook this up in a better venue but i think the brown folks would like this little article i saw in yahoo. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050629/ap_on_go_pr_wh/nixon_india;_ylt=An1dxz6PthHr0bpnak6KK8us0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3OXIzMDMzBHNlYwM3MDM-
Besides how many times do you get to hear that Kissinger called Indians a bunch of bastards.
that’s so sad.
What was his family thinking, waiting till he was so far gone to seek out help? This was a disaster waiting to happen. If not his poor mother, then someone else.
He may have been raised in a very unhealthy environment in which his parents treated him horribly growing up. It is horrible but a lot of parents are abusive. I know we do not like to acknowledge this in the Indian community in the U.S. but it is true. If a marriage is unhealthy …there is a certain point in which to get OUT. My gut feeling is there was a lot of anger at home.
there also seems to be a social stigma about seeking professional help for mental problems. “Ignoring it keeps it from being real”, is the general attitude.
I’m not saying it’s right; I’m just saying it IS.
he killed his mom. bottom line. he should be put down as well.
Recent research indicates that for a subset of people, cannabis use greatly increases the risk of pychosis:
He looks like Charles Manson…
I know the family well. He was under treatment for four years. This year he was being treated by two psychologists and a psychiatrist.
thats what indian moms can drive a nigga to.
That’s totally untrue, he was mentally sick and calling Kiran Kadian a bad mother is completely inaccurate all she wanted was for him to recover from his mental state and get off drugs, yeah he can burn in hell but understand he had no good reason to hate her, to hate his dad, maybe because he might not have gotten as much love/attention from him but they’re a great family and great parents. I knew Kiran and I know her husband, don’t remember Jay or the daughters cos I met them when I was little
i grew up with this kid. he was funny in elementary school, then he started doing drugs and went crazy i guess. sad…
Jay was my boy. His mom was very nice. He was always kind of a douche but a good guy when it came down to it who did the worst possible thing a human being could do. If this makes him a horrible person so be it, he’s still my boy.
Saw you posted here too T… wow… I had my first kiss at this kids 12th birthday party. I remember his mom made us food and brought it downstairs… I was at a complete loss of words when Trent called me early one morning and told me the news. Its crazy… everyone’s so innocent at one point… When you’re 10 years old, you look around the school bus… you never think about the paths that each of us will take. We’ll all be the star in our own epic adventure before its all over. Anyway… I’ve said enough… God Bless you Jay… his entire family… and all the others that I shared my childhood with. Peace.
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Jay Kadian was my friend too. I went to both middle and high school with him. He lived 5 minutes from my house and our mothers were friends. Mrs. Kadian used to call my mom on a regular basis often very upset and worried about Jay. She would ask if he was with me or if either my mom or I had seen him. To Mrs. Kayant, Jay was her life.
While I can never excuse Jay for the despicable and utterly heinous act that he committed, I would like to give my personal input on the situation.
Jay used to be a great guy. He was shy and often soft spoken but he was ridiculously smart, very generous and funny as shit.
The last time I saw Jay was about 3 months before he was arrested for murder. He had wanted to go to this music festival that some of my other friends and I were going to. We drove up together and when we arrived it quickly became apparent what his real motivation was for coming to the show.
I guess this is where I have to mention that Jay had an addiction. He didnÂ’t always used to, but the first time that Jay took LSD junior year of high school he got stuck. From then on, every time there was word of acid in the area, Jay found it.
For those of you who don’t really know much about drugs, acid, in my opinion, is one of the worst. It is no medication like pot has been proven to be time and time again. In fact, scientists working for both the CIA and US military initially created LSD as a prototype weapon. During the “MK-ULTRA” experiments, as they were called, thousands of volunteers were given varying sized doses of LSD. It was discovered that even a small amount of LSD could render an individual permanently schizophrenic; the risk increased with higher dosages.
With that being said, when Jay told me that he had found someone selling acid at the show and that he bought 15 and just ate them all, I new something bad was going to happen.
To be exact, what happened is that he sat in my tent shivering on the floor speaking in what sounded like reverse English for over 20 hours. Finally without notice he stood up, left the tent and disappeared into a crowd of 120,000 people.
It ended up taking me 2 full days to find him, but when I finally did, I sadly realized that I had actually found only his shell. Jay didnÂ’t exist anymore; his brain had literally melted. There was nothing about the person I found that day that resembled Jay KadianÂ…except his physical appearance. Even that was not completely the same. Most notably changed were his eyes. I remember looking into them and thinking that he looked as if he no longer had a soul. He lacked any emotion, the only thing he had was a dead on and very creepy stare.
I drove home that day for 9 hours in the company of a complete stranger and future murderer.
About a month later I moved to study in the south of France. 2 months after that, I got a call from one of my friends who told me that Jay had been arrested for murder.
I know nothing more about the actual murder than any of you who have read the newspaper articles, but there is no doubt in my mind that Jay murdered his mother as a direct result of his abuse of LSD.
I am sorry for going on for so long but I cant help it when I see other people saying that he should be strung up and should burn in hell. I understand where the disgust comes from and I am disgusted my self as is my family and friends, but I also know, we also know, that Jay used to be a good person.
Ill leave it at that.
Thanks for your comments Ramsey, I don’t think its appropriate for people who never knew him in any way to condemn him but I do sympathize with their feelings. Of course, what he did was a heinous crime but the Jay I knew had a good heart and was a good friend. He had an abrasive personality but a solid conscience. He was also a guy with problems, and all of us could see it from the time we were kids that he wasn’t stable. He always had emotional issues and as Ramsey said, the LSD, i believe, did him in. Let this be an example of what drugs can do. I don’t know who jay is today but I hope we can remember who he was, and that was certainly not someone we can so easily write off to hell. My prayers go out to him, his father, and his kind mother. God bless.
I went to cooper middle school for 8th grade before leaving my regular school district and going to TJ, but one friend who I made at cooper was Jay. In 8th grade he was honestly a truly nice kid. I would go over to his house and we’d play basketball and video games all afternoon. I last saw him in summer 2000 (after our soph year) when I went over to his house to watch a lacrosse game that was on TV and we hung out and chilled in his basement. Still a nice, kind kid. No anger or meanness in all at him. I do remember him telling me about how his parents would put a lot of academic pressure on him, and that his sisters did well so he had to do well too, although that was only back in 8th grade. What ramsey and steve and trent said before is right. Jay was a kind soul who deep down only meant well, at least until the drugs did what they did. It seems like the real Jay died a good while before his mother did.
has anybody talked to jay in prison at all? or know if that is even possible? i hope jay can recover from the effects of those drugs. i sat next to jay in class (langley hs) for 3 or 4 years…he made jokes from the back of the class and such but nothing that a typical jokester wouldnt do. he was never mean to me. its unfortunate what happened…i wish someone could have intervened..but now i hope jay can be forgiven and be a changed man. of course what he did is 100% wrong…tragic.
what’s going on with this tragic case? Even though I have no affiliation in regards to the Kadian family I would just like to say that I hope all of them recover and Jay gets treatment on his drug addiction and learn his lesson. This case was mostly forgotten about a week after but if anyone has any updates please do let me know. thanks
My children live in the US and they happened to inform me about this tragic news. Believe me nothing could have been worse. Kiran was a well rounded personality, with the right blend of style, emotions, humility and love. She was very eager to have a son after two daughters. She made a wish for a son and on his birth even went to Tirupathi to get her head shaved off . I personally believe that when the desire of a male child in the cultural indian context heightens, the boy in such a family may not receive a well balanced environment to grow in. And I presume that is what happened to Jayant. I can just silently mourn the death of a friend… A dear friend who will live in my heart till I do…. Beyond which I hope to pass on her memories to my kids to carry on with. I will love and miss her always. No punishment to Jayant can get his wonderful ma back… I hope the family lives happily, in peace ever after
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/05/AR2007010501927.html?nav=emailpage
Update – 20 years in jail. Wow, seems very generous. I do NOT agree with this at all but I’m sure his family didn’t want the life sentence or even death. Poor kid…life is ruined. He’ll be released from prison and immediately try to score some drugs…hopefully I’m wrong. What do you guys think?
I’m not sure why everybody wants to glorify his behavior as a kid and say that deep down he is a good person. the way that you handle events and issues while growing up and through the rest of your life shapes you into who you are as a person. I went to school with Jay for like 7 years and all he could do was make jokes at other people’s expenses. I figured it was a good thing he started smoking pot in highschool- hopefully it would have calmed him down- but all it really did was make it that much harder to duck his parents. He could have gotten a job, he could have moved out, he could have done alot of things- but he decided to stab his mother 23 times in the neck with a butchers knife, then an additional 7 times in the back after she had bled out on the floor of the kitchen WHILE SHE WAS MAKING HIM DINNER. He was a sick little fuck and still is- i hope they wear him like a sock puppet in prison.
I knew him, all he did was play halo 2 non stop. I hear he became psychotic and depressed due to the fact that he overdosed on a hallucinagen which was unlike his character to everyone who knew him away from college.
If he was a good kid, that drug changed it. He seemed like an alright guy to me just a little weird how he would never come out of his room. Im very sorry for his familys loss. I just did not see anything about why he was psychotic and depressed, maybe he hid that from everyone but his roomates(i was not a roomate just a friend of his roomate).
20 years isnt fair he deserves not to be in jail but locked up permanently in a mental institution. This kid was not sociable whatsoever. Marijuana had nothing to do with the state he was in. It was the overdose on the hallucinagen.
People in the justice system should really look at the possibility that once an individual abuses a drug like LSD to the point where he has to talk to his cigarettes when he smokes one, he should not be released in 20 years. I brought a female over to the apartment he was staying in just two weeks before the murder and she told me she never wanted to go over there again because he reminded her of a serial killer.
I was just revisiting this story (as I do once in awhile), and saw the posts from other people that knew Jay. When I first posted (“I knew this kid”) I was talking to strangers, but it looks as if some of Jay’s friends and associates have put in their two cents, so here’s mine:
I became friends with Jay in about 4th or 5th grade. I remember him as outrageously funny (very sarcastic), and an understanding friend. We had a pretty large group of closely knit friends that hung out at school and had birthday parties, etc., a few times a year. When middle school came, we were all scattered but still pretty good friends. The birthday parties tapered off, and eventually we fell out of regular contact. However, we would still see each other in the halls at high school and give each other “5” or whatever.
The last time I saw Jay was at a Safeway with his sister. This must have been fairly soon after the incident that Ramsey wrote about, because he just seemed so vacant. He was always pretty monotonous, as anyone who had a class with him could tell you, but he seemed very withdrawn and there was a distinct darkness in his eyes. We exchanged cell phone numbers and said we’d hang out. The next thing I heard, Jay’s mom had been killed and Jay was missing.
While it’s impossible to find the exact cause of this tragedy, it’s safe to assume it was, amongst other things, a combination of drugs and untreated mental issues. Drugs (even marijuana) affect different people differently. I’m intimately familiar with a case where marijuana alone lead to someone becoming paranoid/schiczophrenic. So don’t discount the fact that drugs really do change a person. In this case it was our friend.
This week marks the fourth anniversary of a uniquely horrific act that has irrevocably altered the lives of the four surviving members of Jay’s nuclear family. This is a synopsis of the past four years from a grieving father, now approaching sixty, who is much touched by the ongoing comments and visits to this site by so many of you that presumably includes a silent majority (it is a Nixonian phrase. I am from that generation). Like others of that generation, for instance, the Vietnam vets, I cannot but help revisit sites like this one, especially on anniversaries.
I do not spend this part of March in the States or in India (the land of my birth). Accordingly, I leave for England tomorrow. I used to drug test Jay periodically and with much difficulty, for he would often turn nasty and uncooperative. Though some tests would only turn out to be mildly positive for THC and I allowed him to return to college only when he was negative. However, the standard SAMHSA-5, like most tests does not screen for LSD, a drug that he vehemently denied using much of because he had had a “bad trip” with it. I believed him, though once I did once find a vial of acid left on his desk at home. In addition, he had acquired the look of a typical druggie (“a serial… look”), become a convincing liar and a petty thief (as do many druggies). I also found had high dose Nicotinic Acid tablets, rotting mushrooms (ordered from Holland, delivered by US Mail!)under his bed and a large number of Visine bottles after the act. Clearly, hindsight proved me wrong, but so were the the psychiatrists and psychologists who were treating him. As a physician (I am a gastroenterologist) I personally thought his major problem was an incipient schizo-affective disorder that begins with depressive symptoms.
He never made eye cotact or communicated with me during his court appearences and his incarceration in Fairfax County. He wrote me immediately after he had pleaded guilty to a charge of second degree murder. He received a thirty year sentence (that includes ten years of probation and 15 percent off of the other twenty years for good behaviour). I suspect a public defender rather than a celebrated criminal lawyer would have obtained a simlar verdict. Since then, by some implied but unstated complicity we write monthly letters to each other. I will be happy to share these with anyone of you on an individual basis for whatever inputs and insights that you might wish to share with me. I would hope you would respect the privacy of such shared communication.
I have not seen him since he was moved from Fairfax County beause he has to give permission to receive visits. He has never called, a privilege that he is entitled to. He does send seasonal greeting cards.
I have since remarried and my new wife, a childless widow from India in her forties, also writes to him. He is correct and cordial in his replies and does raise a query, if she does not include a letter from her when I write him.
His sisters (my two daughters), one in New York City, and the other in London, England, remain estranged from both of us.
A couple of years ago, Ramsey came by our Great Falls home. I was not in. I did mention this to Jay and sent him his address. I do not think he wrote him. In the same vein, I recently sent him the address of his cousin Ahmol, who, too, attended most of the court appearences and was close to him. Ahmol went to UVA and some of you may know him.
My address: 10005 Thompson Ridge Court Great Falls,VA 22066.
I suspect Jay’s address can be obtained from public sources as some have already apparently done. I would greatly appreciate being informed in advance if any one of you gets in touch with him.
May the Almighty give all of you peace, grace, and bleesings.
I used to see Kiran during Swami Anubhavananda’s visits to Dr Poudel’s house. She used to be aloof but was there always present to support the hosts if needed. I found her pleasant and very lovely. Then I heard the news and was very very shocked. I often wondered and still do : where did such wonderful parents go wrong ? Was it really an immense pressure put on Jayant to perform better or was it just some form of sickness that we as parents often fail to recognize or even acknowledge in our children ? I have been in this country for over 20 years now and have raised 2 kids of my own. I have come across some parents who do expect a lot from their kids.. but I have seen kids taking charge of their lives once they are on their own… To my mind It had to do something with Jayant’s abuse of drugs and his “mental” illness. Mr Kadian, I have never met your kids but I do see you and your wife from time to time and enjoy your writing.. my heart goes out to you and your daughters. I hope we can all learn something from this horrific happening… I would like to see what kind of letters Jayant writes to you.. I have studied “criminolgy” in law school with a special interest in “jeuvenile delinquency” …. Such cases deeply affect me… S
Thank you for your comments Mr. Kadian. I went to school with Jay in middle school. I am sorry to hear for your losses and I wish you and your family the best of luck. I have never met Mrs. Kadian but I truly understand what an important person she was to so many. Noone can explain their actions after an enraged outburst, rather it is just cause by impulsion. Jay might have been unwillingly pushed in a direction,by your wife your own personal goals for him, which were healthy and bright, but unfortunately Jay vehemently opposed. Parents always want whats best for their kids, in which you all did, and I want to let you know that I believe you did everything possible to help. Again I wish you the best of luck and may you forever find peace in life from this point on. I appreciate your comments and other friends and families inquiries. I’m happy to know that you keep Jay in your life and in your heart, I know that it must mean the world to him that you still care.
Thank you Mr. Kadian. God bless you and your family.